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Sep 20 2021 08:33pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obdI7tgKLtA
project veritas's ""big scoop"" for tonight was apparently some very anecdotal evidence of 1-2 nurses / HHS employees refusing to report adverse side effects from covid vaccines in order to artificially inflate its perceived effectiveness
they can point to a few isolated incidents like a 15 year old developing blood clots after a pfizer vaccine with 'unclear etiology', which is then not reported as a side-effect, and doctors saying they don't bother with the VAERS system at all
I don't think its indicative of any widespread campaign nor does it tell us anything we couldn't have predicted in some isolated cases in a national roll-out, but it does cast some doubts on how accurate the methodology of medical analysis can be in a case like covid. We've got lots of studies and metastudies that rely on these kinds of reporting and if datasets at the very base were being fudged, even if slightly, that can greatly skew analysis. The same was true for the very arbitrary designations of cause-of-death that were contributing to vastly disproportionate rates of early reported death rates last year, which were eventually shown to be completely untrue. Now we can look at the more reliable, wider lens of stuff like the CDC's excess death rate to get a realistic gauge for how deadly covid-19 is, but we don't have similar utilities to test either the total effectiveness or total risk of vaccines.

Now any good analysis is going to make assumptions about the unreliability of their data and potential for underreporting / misreporting, but that itself is a significant amount of uncertainty into results that have been cited as authoritative proof.
I think there's room for some doubts over the legitimacy of some of this rushed research and politically compromised approval process without the absurd excesses of hacks like PV using slowed-down speech and pixelation and spooky music to pretend its all a big conspiracy theory.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Sep 20 2021 08:35pm
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Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 20 2021 07:33pm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obdI7tgKLtA
project veritas's ""big scoop"" for tonight was apparently some very anecdotal evidence of 1-2 nurses / HHS employees refusing to report adverse side effects from covid vaccines in order to artificially inflate its perceived effectiveness
they can point to a few isolated incidents like a 15 year old developing blood clots after a pfizer vaccine with 'unclear etiology', which is then not reported as a side-effect, and doctors saying they don't bother with the VAERS system at all
I don't think its indicative of any widespread campaign nor does it tell us anything we couldn't have predicted in some isolated cases in a national roll-out, but it does cast some doubts on how accurate the methodology of medical analysis can be in a case like covid. We've got lots of studies and metastudies that rely on these kinds of reporting and if datasets at the very base were being fudged, even if slightly, that can greatly skew analysis. The same was true for the very arbitrary designations of cause-of-death that were contributing to vastly disproportionate rates of early reported death rates last year, which were eventually shown to be completely untrue. Now we can look at the more reliable, wider lens of stuff like the CDC's excess death rate to get a realistic gauge for how deadly covid-19 is, but we don't have similar utilities to test either the total effectiveness or total risk of vaccines.

Now any good analysis is going to make assumptions about the unreliability of their data and potential for underreporting / misreporting, but that itself is a significant amount of uncertainty into results that have been cited as authoritative proof.
I think there's room for some doubts over the legitimacy of some of this rushed research and politically compromised approval process without the absurd excesses of hacks like PV using slowed-down speech and pixelation and spooky music to pretend its all a big conspiracy theory.


lol project veritas.
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Sep 20 2021 08:45pm
Quote (aaron9999 @ Sep 20 2021 09:43pm)
lol project veritas.


indeed
But providing evidence that fudging the data is occurring.
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Sep 20 2021 08:49pm
Quote (MrSK @ Sep 21 2021 02:33am)
Can you point to a single post where someone says or even insinuates it is only caucasians that have problems being vaccinated?


the insinuation is that it's always trump supporters. which is just not the case. the examples I gave, indians and pakistani, do the same in the UK, in Canada, in US, everywhere.
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Sep 20 2021 08:59pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 20 2021 07:45pm)
indeed
But providing evidence that fudging the data is occurring.


lmao watched some of it... she puts her faith in god not men. why even work at a hospital just let god decide your health lmao
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Sep 20 2021 09:00pm
Quote (SanduLungu @ Sep 20 2021 07:49pm)
the insinuation is that it's always trump supporters. which is just not the case. the examples I gave, indians and pakistani, do the same in the UK, in Canada, in US, everywhere.


Thats because it's 90% of the time the vocal minority of trump supporters talking about it and spreading misinformation & conspiracies. This isnt some anti-white witch hunt
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Sep 20 2021 09:03pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Sep 20 2021 08:34am)
Unvaccinated people are eating up excessive amounts of hospital resources as a consequence of their irresponsible behaviour and are depriving other citizens of access to healthcare.


they are saying that in my local news where we are 90% vaccinated

i'm worrying about where these arguments will actually end
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Sep 20 2021 09:19pm
Quote (MrSK @ Sep 20 2021 09:33pm)
Can you point to a single post where someone says or even insinuates it is only caucasians that have problems being vaccinated?


's entire thread.

Quote (aaron9999 @ Sep 20 2021 10:43pm)
lol project veritas.


Genetic fallacy is for f*&%$^s

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Sep 20 2021 09:26pm
Quote (proccy @ Sep 20 2021 10:03pm)
they are saying that in my local news where we are 90% vaccinated

i'm worrying about where these arguments will actually end


If it ends short of genocide of anti-vaxxers then it hasn't gone far enough.
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Sep 20 2021 09:27pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 20 Sep 2021 23:26)
If it ends short of genocide of anti-vaxxers then it hasn't gone far enough.


Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 20 Sep 2021 23:11)
This forum seriously lacks moderation


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