This is the base complaint as it has stood for many years now. Bit by bit, every solo aspect of the game has been nerfed and/or removed, drop chances and exp gain rates have been nerfed to hell. And on that extremely rare occasion in a group climb when an item does finally drop, somebody else gets it.

Turns the game from an exciting gear finding extravaganza, as any gear-based RPG should be, into a endless timesucking slog.

Don't really care one way or the other regarding update. Sounds maybe good for group explore I guess, and since I don't run a death farmer or NMNM farmer, no personal impact. Just seems kind of shit to target those who just want to sit down for some solo fun and possibly improve their gear through actual gameplay yet again.

$0.02 given.

Haha, nice one Paul. People complained and so he took away the fun thing I feel a little bad that many others didn't get to experience NMNM like I did, but one thing is for sure... I will save a lot of fg over the next 20 years in potions I don't have to buy anymore

Hope there aren't too many tears over this. You know, the first season I solo'd NMNM on a potted up char in 2016, no one even paid attention much less copied, because the drop rates were so low. But now, with drop rates the way they are, you have a better chance of finding sick drops off a 3 spawn EP now than off a full NMNM back then, so this is more or less a necessary balancing

I think this update is fantastic.

Man for the first time I was gonna try it out too. Just couldn't find elemental education anyway lol . RIP

Still, people were posting 200 ee items practically daily and best in game items. Obviously something was off especially when the same people are finding the same gg items and everyone else isn't .

This post was edited by Bob888 on Jul 24 2021 12:03pm

Now, how about if we remove this garbage version of the shrine?

Legit the worst update that has happened since I started playing this game

shouldve just nerfed nmnm with less drops or maybe not all r eps

Yeah the ep aspect is super fun. Just nerf the d rops .

Can't really just nerfd the drops unless you make it once activated Mobs don't drop items till last mob is killed forcing people to complete the quest but than you would just have people swapping characters to complete the quest for drops so only thing he could of done is what he did I did farm nmnm and I agree it was over powered 45 eps was insane for shines and muteable with the chance of godly drops I am actually happy with this nerf and as a mobile player love the new shrine

I am ok with the changes, seems like group explore is buffed and solo farm is nerfed, long term the game couldn't handle current crazy drop rates.

The last time I checked, the game was called Ladder Slasher === not Ladder Farmer