Apart from Ohio, is there any other swing state where this was the case?

i'd bet on Florida.

Bingo! There's a reason why TRUMP got MORE votes than OBAMA when it became easier to vote! To the GOP overlords, it's better to disenfranchise some of their own voters as long as the Democrats lose more.

Jury made the right choice in my opinion.

Will things change? I will say this until I'm blue in the face: the types of people that enjoy exerting power over others are drawn to the police force, and that will not change

Republican gains in Florida were based on a huge swing of Cubans in Miami-Dade toward Trump. (From a particularly low baseline since he experienced a huge erosion with this group in 2016.)

Cubans were uniquely receptive to the message of looming socialism, as well as to images of burning cities and civil unrest in the streets, and anti-lockdown sentiment and so on. In upscale suburbs in Florida, for example in the Jacksonville suburbs, Trump lost just as much as he did in those of Georgia, Texas, Wisconsin and elsewhere. And since white rural voters in Florida are just about maxed out for Republicans, I really doubt that the GOP gained a lot of votes from them due to easier voting. At least not to offset the effect of easier voting on low propensity blacks the cities.

I'm a fan of laws that apply to everyone equally. Trying to tailor laws based on who's most impacted or whatever other arbitrary metric becomes very confusing and a lot of the time is inherently discriminatory.

my point tho was FL had higher turnout, and it didnt help democrats. they even had felons voting and didnt win.



that's literally why the law was written by state GOP tho. so like idk what you're saying even.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Apr 21 2021 02:31pm

If these types of laws are racist in Georgia they should be in Colorado as well regardless if it's 30% or 3% black being impacted.

That's an incorrect conclusion. The higher turnout most definitely helped them in Florida (although not by much in the case of FL), but it was offset by an unrelated factor (Cubans coming back home to the GOP).

In 2016, Trump won Florida by 120k votes. In 2020, he won it by 370k. In 2016, Hillary got a margin of 290k out of Miami-Dade alone, in 2020, Biden only got a margin of 80k out of it.

So this one county alone accounts for 210k out of the 250k swing toward Trump. Once we factor in the Cubans living in other counties of Florida than Miami-Dade, this should pretty neatly explain all of the swing toward the GOP in 2020.
This is of course not exact science, but without the Cuban factor, Trump would have won Florida by just about the same 120k votes as in 2016, which would have been a smaller margin percentage-wise due to the significantly higher turnout.

But we can change the circumstances surrounding it. For example, we can make that "draw" a relatively smaller factor in deciding who gets to be on the force.

For example, if a person with a "strong draw" to be a cop keeps fucking up on the job, he could get fired.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Apr 21 2021 02:47pm