Trump doesnt want to be strong on the border either

Weve been over this. The wall isnt gonna do jack to stop illegal immigration. Its about building a monument, not about being effective.

Trump didnt have a clear plan and governed like a usual Republican. He attacked Iran, cut taxes, continued the wars, etc. He is in no substantive way different from the establishment Republicans he criticized except for not keeping the quiet part quiet.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Feb 7 2021 06:33pm

lol you should of said he raised taxes

And yet their voters do want a strong border, and that's what's important. We are talking about regular Americans.

If you're talking about regular Americans then the only conclusion is that they are significantly further left than their representatives, and the representatives are further right because the moneyed interests that work to filter candidates push ones that are preferable to them.

and back to the original point, conservative voices are more popular on YouTube because they are driven on low information and emotional response, which drives engagement more than the long-form analysis that is common in leftist circles. Leftists, who have policies that are much more in-line with the American people, have always been shafted by the algorithm both explicitly, through demonetization of any LGBT content, and implicitly, through deprioritization in searches, which further drives less engagement.

and that prioritization of right over left is partially what has driven the conspiracy nonsense that is currently eating the Republican party, and direct action by those same platforms to reduce the effect of the conspiracy nonsense is not censorship as much as it is bringing it in line with how it treats other political content.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Feb 7 2021 07:24pm

What I am saying is that regular Americans vote for right-wing agendas that never get enacted. On a few specific policies, they do come across more economically liberal than they vote. But by and large they prefer conservative representation. The whole is more than the sum of its parts, and not all positions are equal weight.

Just because they vote for conservative politicians doesn't mean they are actually conservative. There's plenty of Floridians that want a $15 minimum wage, national healthcare, more favorable treatment of immigrants, but were scared off by the "Biden is a communist!" commercials. Hell, Bernie just spent a few years as the most approved of politician and it took significant meddling both times to slow him down in the primaries. 2016 if the Democrats hadn't actively manipulated against Bernie and if they had more winner take all states then it would have been Bernie vs Trump, and every single poll had Bernie slaughtering Trump. (inb4 but muh opposition research, as though Hillary didn't have opposition research done on her)

The people can be manipulated, and by mostly restricting their options to a far-right party (Republicans) and a center-right party (establishment Democrats) you artificially make them seem right wing in their voting. Healthcare was a national issue in 2009 and they elected Democrats in a landslide. Why aren't you saying they voted for a far-left policy that never got realized? Obamacare was the Republican's response to healthcare in the 80's when Democrats were for single payer, and in the 2000's most Democrats had given up on that position and we ended up getting the Republican plan from the 80's. It's pretty undeniable at this point that the left makes up two to three times more voters than the Democratic base, but they never have a real option for representation so they almost always sit out.

Hell, every single Democrat who ran on single payer healthcare got elected this last round, including ones that were in Republican leaning districts, and the blue-dog Democrats anywhere that wasn't heavy blue were basically a coin flip.

It seems to me you are compartmentalizing again. The data is there, and pretty obvious, but you are only willing to draw certain conclusions if it goes in one direction.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Feb 7 2021 08:14pm

100% fact.

If you actually understand the article and not read it like a dumb pleb, then you would understand that the democractic components of our system were not to be fucked with and all of the attempts by Trump through malicious and untrue means were thustly shut down. That is what the article is saying.

STILL with the "stolen" election.
sad people need Prozac or something

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