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Feb 7 2021 11:05am
Quote (EndlessSky @ 7 Feb 2021 08:35)
Because it won't save them from tyranny.

They'll just be eaten last.


They don't care. As long as you get eaten first, they find it perfectly acceptable.

Notice the #NotAllMuslims bullshit got real quiet after the Uyghur camps broke out in China.

The attempts to demonize and cry for the de-personing of 74 million Trump voters after Biden won the election is nothing more than a rallying cry over a common enemy. You are their scapegoat. The "new Jew" so to speak.

The only real question right now is will this tendency to push for open hostility continue until it forces open warfare, or will calmer heads prevail? Dems refused to give up power when they lost in 2016 and the Republicans bowed to their commands and held strong against Trump. Dems have power back now and are clearly willing to use it.

The Times article that openly brags about working to insure the "proper" outcome of the election is just a test. If they can get people on the right to accept that their actions were really just countermeasures to some "evil far right plot" rather than attempts to control the flow of information and alter the legal voting process last minute, then they can move on to the next step of consolidation.
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Feb 7 2021 01:21pm
Quote (kenw @ Feb 7 2021 01:16am)
How depressed are you right now knowing your attempt to steal the election failed, and your cult leader & co got muzzled into submission? Let it flow :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0


we aint backing down fool we gettin stronger. REEEEEEEEEE
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Feb 7 2021 01:26pm
is there a single word about overturning votes for trump or fabricating votes for biden?

i skimmed through it and it looks just like a campaign to get more people out to vote
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Feb 7 2021 01:30pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 7 2021 02:21pm)
we aint backing down fool we gettin stronger. REEEEEEEEEE


YouTube and Twitter suspensions of your people shows otherwise. You can only get endemic growth if you are forced to remain in echochambers instead of mainstream platforms. The average person has no idea what bitchute, Parler and telegram are, so it will be a steep uphill battle trying to convert fresh people to your cult. :)
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Feb 7 2021 01:34pm
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YouTube and Twitter suspensions of your people shows otherwise. You can only get endemic growth if you are forced to remain in echochambers instead of mainstream platforms. The average person has no idea what bitchute, Parler and telegram are, so it will be a steep uphill battle trying to convert fresh people to your cult. :)


ya :) see how hard you all gota be frauding it. we know what your doing we see ya HONK HONK'N around those other sites you made them other site and you making them profitable cause you cant win with arguments so you have to be fraud about it we see you we know why you lose HONK HONK
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Feb 7 2021 01:38pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Feb 7 2021 10:23am)
The article presented evidence proving the election was rigged by billionaires.

Then the article tried to claim that the opposite was true and that billionaires were "saving democracy".

You have to eat a diet of glue to not see what a bunch of tools you are.


It definitely shows they influenced the election, but according to literally you that's nothing to worry about if Russia does it so why would I worry about American companies doing it?

Also Trump was the central figure on disinformation about the election, so it's reasonable that people would get together to spread good information.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 7 2021 10:30am)
Why would a bunch of socialist and communist authoritarians not heavily approve of anything that leads to a more overwhelming and authoritative government? It's literally what they want.

They aren't tools, they're willing participants, and they're ecstatic that they're winning. RussiaGate, impeachment efforts, tech banning alternative viewpoints, etc. has nothing to do with "fair". It's an ideological war between those who value the liberty of the individual and those who value the power of the State. Those in favor of the power of the State are seeing their wet dreams come true. Why would you expect them to do anything but continue to shout "NOU" at everything you say until you shut up or get banned? It has quite literally been working for them for the last 12 years.


Except tech isn't banning alternate viewpoints. Conservative YouTube and Twitter are still far more massive than liberal or leftist anything. You guys have been so spoiled for so long you see having to play by the rules as abuse. It's really that simple.
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Feb 7 2021 01:53pm
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Except tech isn't banning alternate viewpoints. Conservative YouTube and Twitter are still far more massive than liberal or leftist anything. You guys have been so spoiled for so long you see having to play by the rules as abuse. It's really that simple.


"You guys"? I have no idea what you're talking about. And I've watched a ton of conservative voices get banned from twitter, youtube, and facebook (YouTwitFace). Others have been demonitized (even though ads are still run, so youtube let's them stay to make money off them, but doesn't pay out).

The larger concern I'm seeing is in regards to platforms like Parler. "Don't like our rules, make your own!" Okay, Parler did. So then Amazon discontinues their service without warning or evidence of wrongdoing, and takes no action against Twitter, where illegal activity is literally planned out and even livestreamed constantly.

Payment methods such as Patreon, Stripe and whatnot cutting off users (primarily conservative) without warning for activity that is perfectly legal is of equal concern. If you remove someone's ability to transact online, how does an online business function?

When you say, "If you don't like our terms of service, build your own" does that mean not just the site, not just the server farm, not just the ddos protection, not just the online payment platform, but the bank too? How deep does it go where "We can stop doing business with you because we don't like your perfectly legal political message?"

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Feb 7 2021 01:54pm
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Feb 7 2021 02:08pm
youtube "suspended" my account because i said "news media doesnt decide elections" and bam I was gone. Any reasonable person gona figure out what frauds they are. So they are only becoming their own echo. So people migrate to other sites. Now listen to them bich we not silenced.
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Feb 7 2021 02:12pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 7 2021 03:08pm)
youtube "suspended" my account because i said "news media doesnt decide elections" and bam I was gone. Any reasonable person gona figure out what frauds they are. So they are only becoming their own echo. So people migrate to other sites. Now listen to them bich we not silenced.


Correct me if I'm wrong. It was decided when Biden got a landslide victory, not due to media using magic to change the votes, but maybe I'm imagining things ?

Nothing of value was loss when they suspended you - I'm surprised you lasted that long you putrid animal .

This post was edited by kenw on Feb 7 2021 02:13pm
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Feb 7 2021 02:23pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 7 2021 01:53pm)
"You guys"? I have no idea what you're talking about. And I've watched a ton of conservative voices get banned from twitter, youtube, and facebook (YouTwitFace). Others have been demonitized (even though ads are still run, so youtube let's them stay to make money off them, but doesn't pay out).

The larger concern I'm seeing is in regards to platforms like Parler. "Don't like our rules, make your own!" Okay, Parler did. So then Amazon discontinues their service without warning or evidence of wrongdoing, and takes no action against Twitter, where illegal activity is literally planned out and even livestreamed constantly.

Payment methods such as Patreon, Stripe and whatnot cutting off users (primarily conservative) without warning for activity that is perfectly legal is of equal concern. If you remove someone's ability to transact online, how does an online business function?

When you say, "If you don't like our terms of service, build your own" does that mean not just the site, not just the server farm, not just the ddos protection, not just the online payment platform, but the bank too? How deep does it go where "We can stop doing business with you because we don't like your perfectly legal political message?"


If you don't like Amazon's service make your own server farms, or contract a different one. According to Parler's own words they were capable of being up and running within 12 hours of Amazon taking them down.

Amazon does not host Twitter, it hosts one small section of twitter that does not include it's feed of tweets.

If I hadn't heard conservatives say for the past 20 years "if you don't like it start your own" with regards to literally everything (including as an argument to say that businesses should be allowed to kick out black people) then I might have more sympathy.



but the real issue is that conservatives were kings of the algorithm for probably 5 years, and were only suspended when they started sending porn to people (like Sargon) or doxed the families of school shooting victims (Alex Jones). Meanwhile leftist YouTube got the exact treatment you guys are complaining about now. Pro-trans content still rarely gets monetized and is always de-prioritized in searches. I know you want to pretend that these companies are super left, but they aren't. Real leftist content actually gets flagged and removed from searches because criticizing the capitalist system that makes YouTube wealthy is decidedly against their interests. Conservative people are now playing by the rules that leftists have been playing by for their entire existence, and you think it's unfair because conservatives were always given the advantage until now.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Feb 7 2021 02:24pm
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