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Oct 15 2020 04:05am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 15 2020 04:40am)
Replacing foreign oligarchs with ones aligned with us to help business interests is par for the course. Thats our fucking bread and butter lol.

After googling the only real scandal I can see is Biden threatening to withhold aid to remove the prosecutor that was going to look into the matter. Not a good look for Biden if he doesnt have another reason to have done so.


You don't understand what's scandalous about overthrowing the democratically elected government of a country and then stealing its wealth away from the people and giving it to your own family, and shaking them down with the threat of withholding foreign aid if they investigate it? Its not the united state's interests at heart when millions of dollars are put into the Biden family coffers

I mean its been less than a year since the house democrats voted to impeach Trump for merely asking Ukraine to look into this scandal, without that same overt threat to withhold aid as leverage. And in that case, instead of seeking to line his own pockets out of greed, Trump was seeking to expose wrongdoing by Biden to benefit himself. And the folks arranging that whole impeachment narrative were the same folks involved in Joe Biden's corruption in Ukraine- Eric Ciaramella the 'whistleblower' was Joe Biden's Ukraine specialist.

Ever since Trump first ran for president, we've been getting this endless cycle of democrats outraged over the false accusation that Trump did something unethical that they actually did
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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 15 2020 09:05pm)
You don't understand what's scandalous about overthrowing the democratically elected government of a country and then stealing its wealth away from the people and giving it to your own family, and shaking them down with the threat of withholding foreign aid if they investigate it? Its not the united state's interests at heart when millions of dollars are put into the Biden family coffers

I mean its been less than a year since the house democrats voted to impeach Trump for merely asking Ukraine to look into this scandal, without that same overt threat to withhold aid as leverage. And in that case, instead of seeking to line his own pockets out of greed, Trump was seeking to expose wrongdoing by Biden to benefit himself. And the folks arranging that whole impeachment narrative were the same folks involved in Joe Biden's corruption in Ukraine- Eric Ciaramella the 'whistleblower' was Joe Biden's Ukraine specialist.

Ever since Trump first ran for president, we've been getting this endless cycle of democrats outraged over the false accusation that Trump did something unethical that they actually did


You are leaving a lot of stuff out like always.
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Oct 15 2020 04:06am
New York Post’s is a complete fucking trash of a right wing paper.

==> Disinformation and potentially forgeries.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521045-trailing-in-polls-trump-campaign-resurrects-hunter-biden-attacks

Do us a favor an stop this insane spam.
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Oct 15 2020 04:13am
Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 15 2020 05:05am)
You are leaving a lot of stuff out like always.


You forgot to accuse me of posting walls of text that are too detailed and then saying that I'm putting in too much stuff and thinking it proves anything
At least Saucy is keeping his checkboxes checked
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Oct 15 2020 04:15am
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 15 2020 09:13pm)
You forgot to accuse me of posting walls of text that are too detailed and then saying that I'm putting in too much stuff and thinking it proves anything
At least Saucy is keeping his checkboxes checked


You left out the fact that the prosecutor was in fact corrupt for instance.
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Oct 15 2020 04:23am
Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 15 2020 05:15am)
You left out the fact that the prosecutor was in fact corrupt for instance.


according to the corrupt people who replaced him, handpicked by the people who want him to say that, and contradicted by their opposition
Shokin says he was investigating Burisma, the Biden-picked guy says he wasn't. Shokin says he was investigating corruption, the Biden-picked guy says Shokin was corrupt.

Anyone who is even remotely aware of euromaidan and the history of post-soviet kleptocracies should already understand fully that everyone is corrupt is its just a question of whos bread they're buttering on any given day
The russian-aligned oligarchs were stealing away the wealth and accusing the west of being corrupt, the western-aligned oligarchs were stealing away the wealth and accusing russia of being corrupt

not sure that "We're as bad as the Russians" is a great selling point for Joe Biden's campaign. I preferred when the CIA was toppling governments in coups to serve a misguided philosophy instead of just to line their own pockets. But now Joseph Cofer Black, former coordinator for counterterrorism at the CIA, sits on the board of directors of Burisma, raking in that dough.
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Oct 15 2020 04:24am
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 15 2020 09:23pm)
according to the corrupt people who replaced him, handpicked by the people who want him to say that, and contradicted by their opposition
Shokin says he was investigating Burisma, the Biden-picked guy says he wasn't. Shokin says he was investigating corruption, the Biden-picked guy says Shokin was corrupt.

Anyone who is even remotely aware of euromaidan and the history of post-soviet kleptocracies should already understand fully that everyone is corrupt is its just a question of whos bread they're buttering on any given day
The russian-aligned oligarchs were stealing away the wealth and accusing the west of being corrupt, the western-aligned oligarchs were stealing away the wealth and accusing russia of being corrupt

not sure that "We're as bad as the Russians" is a great selling point for Joe Biden's campaign. I preferred when the CIA was toppling governments in coups to serve a misguided philosophy instead of just to line their own pockets. But now Joseph Cofer Black, former coordinator for counterterrorism at the CIA, sits on the board of directors of Burisma, raking in that dough.


Ok so the story is now two corrupt parties have feud, one party wins.
Pretty much a non story.
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Oct 15 2020 04:26am
Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 15 2020 05:24am)
Ok so the story is now two corrupt parties have feud, one party wins.
Pretty much a non story.


One of those corrupt parties is running for President of the United States
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Oct 15 2020 04:28am
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 15 2020 09:26pm)
One of those corrupt parties is running for President of the United States


Trump didn't set the bar high.
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Oct 15 2020 04:32am
Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 15 2020 05:28am)
Trump didn't set the bar high.


well he set it higher than "overthrowing a democratically elected government in a coup and getting tens of thousands of people killed in a war that risked geopolitical instability, while lining his pockets from the aftermath"
and we're talking about biden in ukraine not clinton in syria/yemen/libya just to be specific
gee those Obama years sure were fruitful
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