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Manchester United and Liverpool are the driving force behind the biggest changes to English football in a generation and an extraordinary overhaul of the Premier League, The Daily Telegraph can reveal.

The two clubs have worked together on a radical set of proposals – called “Project Big Picture” - that will reshape the finances of the game. The Premier League, the most lucrative sports league in the world, would see a reduction to 18 teams, and controlling power in the hands of the biggest clubs.

In return for tearing up many of the rules that have governed the game since the Premier League’s inception in 1992 there will be £250 million rescue package to the Football League to see them through the Covid crisis.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal the details of the working document “Revitalisation” authored by Liverpool’s American ownership Fenway Sports Group with support from United. It anticipates the backing of the other members of the so-called big six, Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur.

In a remarkable set of proposals, which will send shockwaves through the game, 25 per cent of the Premier League’s annual revenue will go to the EFL clubs with £250 million paid up front to see them through the current crisis. There would also be a gift of £100 million to sustain the Football Association.

However, there would be an abolition of the one-club, one-vote principle that has sustained the Premier League since its inception as well as the abolition of the threshold of 14 votes to pass any decision or regulation change.

Under the new proposals, the League Cup and the Community Shield would be abolished. There have been additional discussions that the League Cup would survive but without the participation of the clubs in Europe.

There would be two automatic promotion places for Championship clubs, but the third, fourth and fifth placed clubs would be in a play-off tournament with the 16th placed Premier League club.

The nine clubs who have been in the Premier League for the longest - which includes the big six - would dictate its running in every aspect and would be free to play more games in the expanded Champions League that is anticipated from the 2024-2025 season onwards.

As well as the Premier League dropping from 20 clubs to 18, there would be 24 in each of the Championship, League One and League Two making a total of 90.

The plan is supported by the EFL chairman Rick Parry who has held talks with Liverpool’s principal owner, the American investor John W Henry, and shareholder and director Mike Gordon. In addition, Parry has spoken to the Glazer family, who own United.

The talks began in 2017 but have been accelerated since the coronavirus pandemic has thrust football into the grip of crisis with no fans in stadiums until March at the earliest. Liverpool and United are prepared for a fierce debate over their proposals but they want them implemented as soon as possible.

The Revitalisation document calls for immediate action to cut dramatically what it calls the “revenue chasm” in earnings from television contracts between the Premier League and the EFL. In order to discourage Championship clubs from gambling recklessly on promotion, the parachute payments system would be abolished in favour of the 25 per cent share of Premier League revenue being shared more equitably among EFL clubs.

Under proposals for the new model of distribution of television revenue in the Premier League, Fenway, the driving force behind the document, insist there would be no greater share for the top six. Their stated aim is to eliminate the huge gap in earnings between Premier League and EFL clubs while in return having a greater control of the decisions made by the Premier League.

The document says: “A reset of the economics and governance of the English football pyramid is long overdue”.

The proposals also rewrite the Premier League’s 20-club democracy in favour of placing huge power in the hands of the nine clubs with the longest continual stay in the division. As things stand that is the big six, as well as Everton, Southampton and West Ham. Those nine clubs afforded “long-term shareholder status” would have unprecedented power, with the votes of just six of them required to make sweeping changes. These clubs would even be able to veto a new owner taking over a rival club.

In an exclusive interview with The Daily Telegraph, Parry said that he had the support of many of his 72 members, many currently facing financial ruin, to go ahead with the plan. He said: “What do we do? Leave it exactly as it is and allow the smaller clubs to wither? Or do we do something about it? And you can’t do something about it without something changing. And the view of our clubs is if the [big] six get some benefits but the 72 also do, we are up for it.”

He accepted there would be opposition from the Premier League clubs outside the big six who would see it as detrimental to their financial prospects with less money and two fewer places in the top flight.

“It is definitely going to be challenging and it is an enormous change so that won’t be without some pain,” Parry said: “Do I genuinely think it’s for the greater good of the game as a whole? Absolutely. And if the [big] six are deriving some benefit then why shouldn’t they. Why wouldn’t they put their names to this otherwise?

The proposals include:

£250 million immediately to the EFL to compensate its clubs for lost matchday revenue, deducted from future television revenue earnings and financed by a loan taken out by the Premier League
Special status for the nine longest serving clubs – and the vote of only six of those “long-term shareholders” required to make major changes, including amending rules and regulations, agreeing contracts, removal of the chief executive, and a wide-ranging veto including on club ownership
Premier League to go to 18 clubs from 20
£100 million one-off gift to the FA to cover its coronavirus losses, the non-league game, the women’s game, the grassroots
8.5 per cent of annual net Premier League revenue to go on operating costs and “good causes” including the FA
From the remainder, 25 per cent of all combined Premier League and Football League revenues to go to the EFL clubs
Six per cent of Premier League gross revenues to pay for stadium improvements across the top four divisions, calculated at £100 per seat
New rules for the distribution of Premier League television income, overseas and domestic, including proposals that base one portion on performance over three years in the league
The abolition of the League Cup and the Community Shield
24 clubs each in the Championship, League One and League Two reducing the professional game overall from 92 clubs to 90
A women's professional league independent of the Premier League or the FA
Two sides automatically relegated from the Premier League every season and the top two Championship teams promoted. The 16th place Premier League club in a play-off tournament with the Championship’s third, fourth and fifth placed teams.
Financial fair play regulations in line with Uefa, and full access for Premier League executive to club accounts
A fan charter including capping of away tickets at £20, away travel subsidised, a focus on a return to safe standing, a minimum away allocation of eight per cent capacity
Later Premier League start in August to give greater scope for pre-season friendlies, and requirement for all clubs to compete once every five years in a summer Premier League tournament
Huge changes to loan system allowing clubs to have 15 players out on loan domestically at any one time and up to four at a single club in England

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/10/11/world-exclusive-man-utd-liverpool-driving-project-big-picture/

Can't decide whether someone's making up for April Fool's Day that was lost to covid as all of this sounds utterly bizarre, might as well just fuck off domestic leagues and set up this mythical European Super League
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Oct 11 2020 08:37am
The proposals also rewrite the Premier League’s 20-club democracy in favour of placing huge power in the hands of the nine clubs with the longest continual stay in the division. As things stand that is the big six, as well as Everton, Southampton and West Ham. Those nine clubs afforded “long-term shareholder status” would have unprecedented power, with the votes of just six of them required to make sweeping changes. These clubs would even be able to veto a new owner taking over a rival club.

The idea behind sharing the money with the rest of the leagues is good, but this point is unforgivable and shouldn't be remotely entertained. Football in general is already skewed in favour of the bigger teams, needing only 6 of them to do whatever the fuck they please would ruin even the slightest idea that smaller teams can make it.
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Oct 11 2020 08:52am
Sounds good to me
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The proposals also rewrite the Premier League’s 20-club democracy in favour of placing huge power in the hands of the nine clubs with the longest continual stay in the division. As things stand that is the big six, as well as Everton, Southampton and West Ham. Those nine clubs afforded “long-term shareholder status” would have unprecedented power, with the votes of just six of them required to make sweeping changes. These clubs would even be able to veto a new owner taking over a rival club.

The idea behind sharing the money with the rest of the leagues is good, but this point is unforgivable and shouldn't be remotely entertained. Football in general is already skewed in favour of the bigger teams, needing only 6 of them to do whatever the fuck they please would ruin even the slightest idea that smaller teams can make it.
This is my main concern with this - giving so much power to small minority of the clubs, including ability to block any takeovers, pretty much ensures top 6 remains a closed shop in a case a billionaire tried to crash the party :lol:

And that's only tip of the mountain, what's stopping them from changing their minds in the future re help to the rest of football pyramid or changing money distribution system towards massively favouring top clubs etc

As a United fan I should be all in for that but Glazers and the banks will pocket most of it with Woodward pissing up the rest on rubbish players.

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This is my main concern with this - giving so much power to small minority of the clubs, including ability to block any takeovers, pretty much ensures top 6 remains a closed shop in a case a billionaire tried to crash the party :lol:

And that's only tip of the mountain, what's stopping them from changing their minds in the future re help to the rest of football pyramid or changing money distribution system towards massively favouring top clubs etc

As a United fan I should be all in for that but Glazers and the banks will pocket most of it with Woodward pissing up the rest on rubbish players.


It's just daft. I know football revolves around the big teams. People tune in for the pools and utds and not Burnley or Brighton but they are just as important to the game and should get an equal say, wtf is the premier league without upsets. Especially when we're talking about teams like man city getting a say. Who the fuck are they to be dictating to others, the only reason they are up there is because of foreign cash, they've probably got a smaller fan base than some bottom half teams ffs.

If they're going to use a global pandemic and "but our European super league" to try and apply pressure for this crap then they just need to be told in no uncertain terms they can get in the sea.
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Oct 12 2020 07:05am
As well as the Premier League dropping from 20 clubs to 18, there would be 24 in each of the Championship, League One and League Two making a total of 90.


Am I the only one who's really against this? I love the format the PL and Championship have.

Don't turn into the Belgian league were we reform the competition every weekend.
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Oct 12 2020 11:08am
This deal would cause far more money to go to lower football leagues and allow more talent to progress through the EFL.

£250m upfront payment to the EFL and £100m to the FA. It's very generous, maybe too generous.

Of course the smaller teams that wanted the season voided so they wouldn't get relegated want to keep the rights they currently enjoy, but they don't contribute much anyway.
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It's just daft. I know football revolves around the big teams. People tune in for the pools and utds and not Burnley or Brighton but they are just as important to the game and should get an equal say, wtf is the premier league without upsets. Especially when we're talking about teams like man city getting a say. Who the fuck are they to be dictating to others, the only reason they are up there is because of foreign cash, they've probably got a smaller fan base than some bottom half teams ffs.

If they're going to use a global pandemic and "but our European super league" to try and apply pressure for this crap then they just need to be told in no uncertain terms they can get in the sea.
That's the thing though, likes of Burnley know they're worth very little to the Prem on their own and when Big 6 threaten to break away if smaller Prem clubs don't agree to their proposals, to either test the waters whether there's enough clubs in the rest of Europe willing to follow or join FPL instead as Parry seems to be suggesting, will all of remaining 14 clubs call their bluff?
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As well as the Premier League dropping from 20 clubs to 18, there would be 24 in each of the Championship, League One and League Two making a total of 90.


Am I the only one who's really against this? I love the format the PL and Championship have.

Don't turn into the Belgian league were we reform the competition every weekend.
Every top European league might be following suit soon as there are apparently going to be substantial changes made to CL format to appease European Superleague sympathisers.

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This deal would cause far more money to go to lower football leagues and allow more talent to progress through the EFL.

£250m upfront payment to the EFL and £100m to the FA. It's very generous, maybe too generous.

Of course the smaller teams that wanted the season voided so they wouldn't get relegated want to keep the rights they currently enjoy, but they don't contribute much anyway.
£350m is nothing to the Prem and life changing amount to EPL club, especially down the lower end, it's very clever planning to put pressure on other 14 clubs who won't want to be seen as reason for EPL clubs financial struggles and inevitable demise of some.
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That's the thing though, likes of Burnley know they're worth very little to the Prem on their own and when Big 6 threaten to break away if smaller Prem clubs don't agree to their proposals, to either test the waters whether there's enough clubs in the rest of Europe willing to follow or join FPL instead as Parry seems to be suggesting, will all of remaining 14 clubs call their bluff?


At the end of the day, people don't tune in from Lahore to watch Burnley but they do for United
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