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Aug 8 2020 03:15pm
Quote (Sixers @ Aug 8 2020 07:01pm)
Imagine this

Mahomes: 4,031 passing yards, 26 TD, 5 INT

Wentz: 4,039 passing yards, 27 TD, 7 INT


One of these QB's had great receivers with a lot of speed, the other was throwing to the worst WR corps with practice squad players and didn't have a single WR break 500 yards (first QB in history to throw for 4k yards without a single wideout with 500 yards).

One of these players was listed in the top 5, the other not in the top 100.

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wow that's crazy
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Aug 8 2020 04:30pm
Quote (Sixers @ Aug 8 2020 01:01pm)
Imagine this

Mahomes: 4,031 passing yards, 26 TD, 5 INT

Wentz: 4,039 passing yards, 27 TD, 7 INT


One of these QB's had great receivers with a lot of speed, the other was throwing to the worst WR corps with practice squad players and didn't have a single WR break 500 yards (first QB in history to throw for 4k yards without a single wideout with 500 yards).

One of these players was listed in the top 5, the other not in the top 100.

#DrugsAreBadKids


That's a great observation
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Aug 8 2020 05:13pm
Quote (Sixers @ Aug 8 2020 10:01am)
Imagine this

Mahomes: 4,031 passing yards, 26 TD, 5 INT

Wentz: 4,039 passing yards, 27 TD, 7 INT


One of these QB's had great receivers with a lot of speed, the other was throwing to the worst WR corps with practice squad players and didn't have a single WR break 500 yards (first QB in history to throw for 4k yards without a single wideout with 500 yards).

One of these players was listed in the top 5, the other not in the top 100.

#DrugsAreBadKids


2 more interceptions lol
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Aug 8 2020 05:18pm
Quote (Braxton11 @ Aug 8 2020 07:13pm)
2 more interceptions lol


1 more TD, 2 more INT's

Huuuuuge difference
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Aug 8 2020 05:34pm
Quote (Sixers @ Aug 9 2020 03:18am)
1 more TD, 2 more INT's

Huuuuuge difference


missing 6 games, sb mvp? not nick foles
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Aug 8 2020 09:59pm
Quote (Sixers @ Aug 8 2020 10:01am)
Imagine this

Mahomes: 4,031 passing yards, 26 TD, 5 INT

Wentz: 4,039 passing yards, 27 TD, 7 INT


One of these QB's had great receivers with a lot of speed, the other was throwing to the worst WR corps with practice squad players and didn't have a single WR break 500 yards (first QB in history to throw for 4k yards without a single wideout with 500 yards).

One of these players was listed in the top 5, the other not in the top 100.

#DrugsAreBadKids


Ahh nothing like half told stats....

Wentz threw the ball 607 times vs Mahomes' 484.

Wentz had 16 fumbles vs Mahomes' 3.

Wentz went 9-7 vs Mahomes' 11-3 and a Super Bowl Championship.

If Mahomes had as many attempts as Wentz, his numbers would have blown Wentz's out of the water and it wouldn't have even been close.
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Aug 8 2020 10:06pm
Quote (Hako @ Aug 8 2020 11:59pm)
Ahh nothing like half told stats....

Wentz threw the ball 607 times vs Mahomes' 484.

Wentz had 16 fumbles vs Mahomes' 3.

Wentz went 9-7 vs Mahomes' 11-3 and a Super Bowl Championship.

If Mahomes had as many attempts as Wentz, his numbers would have blown Wentz's out of the water and it wouldn't have even been close.

Yeah that was an easy argument to topple. Comparing volume stats between a guy who played the full season and a guy who missed essentially 3 games. Plus Mahomes was probably benched for a few 4th quarters or handing the ball off in the 4th because the lead was safe.

No one in their right mind is comparing Wentz to Mahomes. To do so would just make you look desperate and stupid.
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Aug 8 2020 11:10pm
Quote (Hako @ Aug 8 2020 11:59pm)
Ahh nothing like half told stats....

Wentz threw the ball 607 times vs Mahomes' 484.

Wentz had 16 fumbles vs Mahomes' 3.

Wentz went 9-7 vs Mahomes' 11-3 and a Super Bowl Championship.

If Mahomes had as many attempts as Wentz, his numbers would have blown Wentz's out of the water and it wouldn't have even been close.


now let's compare the wide receivers they threw to....

Oh wait, there is no comparison. Wentz had the worst WR corps in the NFL by a large margin, while Mahomes had one of the best.

Also, 123 more pass attempts from Wentz but only 2 more INT's. More drop back attempts = more fumble opportunities too.

Lol @ the super bowl mention and team record though. Team sport and as I said Mahomes had the team around him to make it so easy. We all know what Wentz does when he has that type of talent (actually even less), he's the league MVP (had it not been for tearing an ACL week 13 of course).

Put Wentz on that Chiefs team and he'd absolutely go bonkers. Shit, give him one guy that can separate and get open let alone multiple.

This is not saying Wentz is better than Mahomes, but the team around them makes all the difference . When you have the right team around either they can play like the best QB in the game. What Wentz did with the lack of weapons he had to throw to last season was nothing short of incredible. Wentz not being in the top 100 (after being #4 just two seasons ago) is insane.

This post was edited by Sixers on Aug 8 2020 11:26pm
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Aug 8 2020 11:39pm
Funny how Dm doesn't mention how wentz played in 2 more games then Mahomes and basically has the same tds and yards.

Once again cherry picking stats
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Aug 9 2020 01:06am
Quote (Sixers @ Aug 8 2020 10:10pm)
now let's compare the wide receivers they threw to....

Oh wait, there is no comparison. Wentz had the worst WR corps in the NFL by a large margin, while Mahomes had one of the best.

Also, 123 more pass attempts from Wentz but only 2 more INT's. More drop back attempts = more fumble opportunities too.

Lol @ the super bowl mention and team record though. Team sport and as I said Mahomes had the team around him to make it so easy. We all know what Wentz does when he has that type of talent (actually even less), he's the league MVP (had it not been for tearing an ACL week 13 of course).

Put Wentz on that Chiefs team and he'd absolutely go bonkers. Shit, give him one guy that can separate and get open let alone multiple.

This is not saying Wentz is better than Mahomes, but the team around them makes all the difference . When you have the right team around either they can play like the best QB in the game. What Wentz did with the lack of weapons he had to throw to last season was nothing short of incredible. Wentz not being in the top 100 (after being #4 just two seasons ago) is insane.


All I see is excuses and what ifs honestly..

WRs aren't the only players on Offense either btw, but I know that's your main spin.

Wentz also had 20 more sacks than Mahomes did (37 vs 17). So either that's on him, or maybe the OL that you are always so quick to hype up isn't as good as you like to claim?

You're also openly admitting that your so called "genius" GM is actually pretty shitty in the big picture of things. Since football is the ultimate team sport, but you all but just said that he can't field a good enough team to help carry Wentz. Like you try and use as an argument for Mahomes and his success.

It's also pretty comical how much you care about that meaningless top 100 list lol.

At the end of the day, Wentz will never be even 1/8 of the QB that Mahomes is, even if he's on the most perfect/talented team.
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