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Jul 1 2020 09:11am
Quote (GamerReaper @ Jul 1 2020 09:04am)
use an exile if you want to upgrade


Quote (jrjl89 @ Jul 1 2020 09:07am)
Black is the ideal budget runeword.


I do have exile on it. I am not looking for a budget option neither. My smitter works amazingly, but i just wanted to give it some bling .

I currently run : Guillaume's, COH and Treachery (For fade buff to kill Meph)
Grief, exile (eth Sacred targe) , Dracs , Goblin toes, Tgods,
Highlord , raven and dwaft

Switching to LW would open up so many slots... Goblin toes are horrible boots if you don't need the 25% CB from it. Dracs can be replace with IAS gloves etc
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Jul 1 2020 09:13am
if you want LW, go with a phase blade. Save yourself gold costs.
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Jul 1 2020 09:14am
Quote (Dpan @ Jul 1 2020 11:02am)
Grief is for pvp

Lw is for pvm

Depends on what your trying to do with the lw pb has less range but is industructible and zerker has longer range with big repair cost all the time

Not to mention grief has might fade and life tap on it vs grief is just mostly high end damge just depends on what you are trying to do



Grief for PvP

Grief for pvm


You are wrong

There is so much data out there regarding this exact situation.

And by far grief is better for pvm and pvp

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Jul 1 2020 09:15am
Quote (gaspesien @ Jul 1 2020 10:11am)
I do have exile on it. I am not looking for a budget option neither. My smitter works amazingly, but i just wanted to give it some bling .

I currently run : Guillaume's, COH and Treachery (For fade buff to kill Meph)
Grief, exile (eth Sacred targe) , Dracs , Goblin toes, Tgods,
Highlord , raven and dwaft

Switching to LW would open up so many slots... Goblin toes are horrible boots if you don't need the 25% CB from it. Dracs can be replace with IAS gloves etc


I think you should definitely just try it out for yourself whatever build you want.
Phase blade is the ideal base for last wish tho.

I think in the end you might end up back with a grief tho :P

Good luck to you sir.
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Jul 1 2020 09:16am
Quote (gaspesien @ Jul 1 2020 08:11am)
I do have exile on it. I am not looking for a budget option neither. My smitter works amazingly, but i just wanted to give it some bling .

I currently run : Guillaume's, COH and Treachery (For fade buff to kill Meph)
Grief, exile (eth Sacred targe) , Dracs , Goblin toes, Tgods,
Highlord , raven and dwaft

Switching to LW would open up so many slots... Goblin toes are horrible boots if you don't need the 25% CB from it. Dracs can be replace with IAS gloves etc



Your setup is fine just run 1 pt salvation and you don’t even need to fuck with fade

I’m just lazy/cheap, grief etc works so well, why shell out half your FG at this point for the Hrs for a weapon that is weaker than grief?
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Jul 1 2020 09:16am
Quote (gaspesien @ Jul 1 2020 11:11am)
I do have exile on it. I am not looking for a budget option neither. My smitter works amazingly, but i just wanted to give it some bling .

I currently run : Guillaume's, COH and Treachery (For fade buff to kill Meph)
Grief, exile (eth Sacred targe) , Dracs , Goblin toes, Tgods,
Highlord , raven and dwaft

Switching to LW would open up so many slots... Goblin toes are horrible boots if you don't need the 25% CB from it. Dracs can be replace with IAS gloves etc



Switching to grief would plummet your damage and therefore also plummeting how much life you get by life tap and thus plummeting your survivability

And plummeting your damage output increases your likelihood to die because the monster takes longer to die.


Again, this exact situation has been discussed ad naseum. And grief wins by a very large margin.
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Jul 1 2020 09:17am
If your set on Lw in Pb a 15ed 3ar 6os Pb Base
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Jul 1 2020 09:19am
Quote (jrjl89 @ Jul 1 2020 10:07am)
Black is the ideal budget runeword.


if you're going for the cheapest yeah. kingslayer is still cheap and you get more ias, cb, open wounds, and prevent monster heal. lets you replace gores with goblin toes if you wanted to keep the same level of cb.
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Jul 1 2020 09:19am
Quote (jrjl89 @ Jul 1 2020 10:56am)
This. also smiters dont need max block. I have about 40% on my uber smiter. never die.


Lmao why would you not run max block? Unless youre using a zerker you might as well, mb>200more life imo. AND youre maxing holy shield soooo... lol
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Jul 1 2020 09:21am
Quote (kazispazi @ Jul 1 2020 10:19am)
Lmao why would you not run max block? Unless youre using a zerker you might as well, mb>200more life imo. AND youre maxing holy shield soooo... lol


its just not necessary?? with life tap you will heal back up constantly anyways. so what does it matter if you block that much??
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