Do you have a custom water loop?
IF not then don't act like your doing a serious overclock.

If you do and are going to push it to its limits then fine knock yourself out.

there are currently no lower-end non-OC motherboards that are best to pair with non-k chips.
he should go for the K or KF if he is going for z490 or just wait or better yet go amd

also, you don't need a custom loop to get a good overclock going...

Are definitions of a good overclock vary a lot I assume.

I have a decent AIO, my current CPU is over clocked from 3.8 -> 4.8 with steady temps.

Whats the cpus TDP vs the new one?
I doubt that AIO is going to push 5,3ghz on this new chip.

the biggest advantages of a custom loop is being able to service and replace components, and you can aftermarket cool both the cpu and gpu at once with a single loop. And it looks good. Air cooler disadvantages is it's big and heavy and weight loads the motherboard a lot... and AIO has weaker pump generally and when it fails you can't fix it. Actual cooling performance advantage of custom water cooling? A few degrees realistically from having a stronger flow of liquid, but it's not magic. He can easily run south of 95c at full avx load with a decently high overclock (5.2-5.4ghz) without a custom loop... just my 3 cents.

The bigger obstacle to hitting these high clocks is not gonna be his cooling but Intel's binning itself. The 10600k and 10700k have been robbed of good silicon for the 10900k. MSI confirmed only around 2-5% of non-i9 10th gen parts are capable of hitting A tier overclocks. You can build a custom loop around soggy 10700k silicon but it just means you're hitting a voltage wall at a slightly lower temp.

...in comparison 10900k silicon as much as 36% are capable of overclocking exceptionally well. the 10700k/kf is a poor value compared to the 10900k/kf, if you're getting one you're better off with the i9, and the 10600k/kf is a better value than either of them.

the i7 is the worst buy of the 3.

I appreciate your opinions. ill look over this thread in a bit.

keep in mind intel and amd both now ship parts pretty close to their max attainable frequency already nowadays, it is not like it was in the old days where you could get an additional 44% fps tweaking your 2600k. The value of overclocking in terms of performance and not just as an enthusiast has diminished. There's nothing wrong with saving money and going for the non-unlocked chips, I just think it's pointless if you're gonna buy em now since only Z series mobos are available. Go big or go amd.

Umm the custom loop provides better temps period. That's its real advantage.
To bad the system will start to throttle, 72 C which is its max rated temp.

The last part I have to read up on but I believe you know what your saying, you have been quite accurate on such matters in the past.
I haven't personally tried to Over clock any of them myself yet.

This post was edited by King Atrhur on Jun 4 2020 05:50pm