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Apr 6 2020 02:15pm
Quote (kof_zpt @ Apr 6 2020 12:38pm)
its pvm no 1 cares about frames. its great phoenix is the only way!


You're right its PvM you can do whatever you want make a melee sorc if you want etc, but if you're like me and you like to kill fast Phoenix is less fun. Depending on whether you're at the 7, 8 or 9 fps breakpoint like most cookie cutter zons, the frame loss will result in 15-20% less DPS, and I don't generally have mana problems with my zons.
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Apr 6 2020 02:24pm
Quote (kof_zpt @ Apr 6 2020 03:41pm)
it provides unlimited mana and easy to playness. its great. no 1 is askin u to use phoenix.


you can use phoenix on cta side and swap weapon when you want the aura instead of making your build trash 100% of the time for no reason.

Quote (kof_zpt @ Apr 6 2020 03:44pm)
T god offers great safetly with lite sorb and has Great stats on top of +3 thunder fury.

its called options . wanna be elitists, thats whats wrong with this game.


it's not opinions, it's facts. You don't have any argument for the items you recommended being better
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Apr 6 2020 02:36pm
Quote (Hyperdimension @ Apr 6 2020 04:24pm)
you can use phoenix on cta side and swap weapon when you want the aura instead of making your build trash 100% of the time for no reason.



it's not opinions, it's facts. You don't have any argument for the items you recommended being better


fuck off.
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Apr 6 2020 02:39pm
Good to see JSP full of shit ass elitists after coming back in 12 years. these people thinking their way is the only way. then very single char has only 1 build. jsut paly that.

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Apr 6 2020 02:48pm
Quote (kof_zpt @ Apr 6 2020 04:39pm)
Good to see JSP full of shit ass elitists after coming back in 12 years. these people thinking their way is the only way. then very single char has only 1 build. jsut paly that.


There's many variations to the build, none of them include phoenix,coh,treks and tgods though
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Apr 6 2020 02:52pm
i can confirm tg and pheonix are terrible for java
there's no reason to make your zon retarded with this items, it actually take time to casting this useless autoskills

about coh - its so obvious u want enigma so i wont even discuss, its not only that coh got no practical use but u WANT TELEPORT (unless u wanna suck)
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Apr 6 2020 02:52pm
Quote (kof_zpt @ 6 Apr 2020 21:44)
T god offers great safetly with lite sorb and has Great stats on top of +3 thunder fury.

its called options . wanna be elitists, thats whats wrong with this game.


I couldn't agree more. Not everyone have thousands of forum gold to buy the absolute best gear, and what more is; Even the best gear compared to some of the budget options, isn't really THAT much better. You can still make a good javazon with second-to-fourth place gear options.

You use whatever you have and trade for key pieces. That's my strategy too.
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Quote (hanni_69 @ 6 Apr 2020 22:52)
i can confirm tg and pheonix are terrible for java
there's no reason to make your zon retarded with this items, it actually take time to casting this useless autoskills

about coh - its so obvious u want enigma so i wont even discuss, its not only that coh got no practical use but u WANT TELEPORT (unless u wanna suck)


I've played Javazon for years without Teleport, and it works amazingly great without it.
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Quote (Taurean @ Apr 6 2020 10:54pm)
I've played Javazon for years without Teleport, and it works amazingly great without it.


He prob playing sc by default. Thats why not using teleport u loose a lot of quality. On hc, sure coh can be a thing if u can deal u are slow slime with all your resist maxed (still there's no problem maxing fire and light without coh)
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Apr 6 2020 03:05pm
Quote (Taurean @ 6 Apr 2020 22:52)
I couldn't agree more. Not everyone have thousands of forum gold to buy the absolute best gear, and what more is; Even the best gear compared to some of the budget options, isn't really THAT much better. You can still make a good javazon with second-to-fourth place gear options.

You use whatever you have and trade for key pieces. That's my strategy too.


what? if anything tgod is more expensive than the obvious best and only belt to use on java: razortail

and about that phoenix discussion: there is absolutely no need to spend 2x Vex Lo and Jah for a runeword that is annoying and unnecessary on java when you can just use spirit

Quote (Taurean @ 6 Apr 2020 22:54)
I've played Javazon for years without Teleport, and it works amazingly great without it.


you basically negate the fast killspeed by no mobility. a baalrun java works without eni if you put a tele charges amu on her, for anything else: eni
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