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Quote (Landmine @ Jun 2 2023 02:26pm)
It’s more blatant or the media is more fluent in its opening.


the media has realized people will click 1 million times to read about 1 person knocking out 1 person. in the 90s no one cared unless the person died. and even then no one "clicked", it was relegated to a newspaper story.

how effectual "news" has to be these days is so insignificant its silly, but it all makes money. it all scales to ad cash.

i mean the number of times ive read about whole towns being dEsTrOyEd from riots you'd think half of america is abandoned at this point. in reality a lot of windows have been replaced, insurance has been forced to cover thefts, and some few buildings have been entirely rebuilt that burned. i dont support riots, at all, but i also dont support presenting them out of context.
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black people want the state of the ghetto addressed too, thus the strawman.

you're watching LibsofTikTok videos of an idiotic person who has never stepped foot in the hood asking for all police to be removed from black neighborhoods and applying it to people who actually live there. the problem is it's not a simple solution of just increased police presence. even when Giuliani cracked down and ridded time square of gang crime all he did was displace the gang activity.

solving gang violence is a multi trillion dollar issue, and it will take a LONG time. putting cameras on cops was met with "thats too expensive", and a few years later it was nationwide. increased training in holds and restrictions by departments costs pennies compared to even investigating, arresting, and prosecuting one small gang.

math seems very hard for you side, you're angry people are being pragmatic and understand how money and political action works.


No you.

The number of unarmed people of any race killed by police is a vanishingly small figure. It's a non-issue. Mistakes do happen, and sometimes bad eggs decide to be bad eggs (see: Tony Timpa). In a country of 300 million, with crime as high as it is, it's guaranteed. The fact that its so small is an enormous accomplishment and we should all pat ourselves on the back.

The narrative pushed on CNN or MSNBC is that these things are commonplace. To the credulous public, that's the takeaway. Police kill unarmed (black) men because of white supremacy. Don't take my word for it, https://www.skeptic.com/research-center/reports/Research-Report-CUPES-007.pdf, the public at large vastly overestimates how many black men are killed by police in total, and to what extent blacks make up of the total. It results in less policing and less effective policing, more crime, and a waste of time focusing on something that is far less likely to occur than your kid drowning in a swimming pool.

Underlined - Exactly, apply that here. Everything is impossible until you take the first step.
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Jun 2 2023 04:32pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 2 2023 11:56am)
Because riots.


riots because "whyte supremacy"
some doper criminal dies because some cop was negligent and everyone thought it was gross
butt because of his skin color. whyte supremacists mode was activated
the elite whytie leftists kneel in african slave garb, still baffling? perhaps an inside joke?
the DNC sends their terrorists out to attack, Burn Loot and Murder people who didnt have any thing to do with it
then they draw angel wings on the dude and make a shrine to him.
today antifa has been defunded and the cops got a raise
BLM (Buy Large Mansions in whyties neighborhood) have retired
all brought to you by the party of the criminally insane
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Jun 2 2023 05:37pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 1 2023 02:53pm)
So, do you agree that this woman was a very compelling counter-example to the "believe ALL women"-mantra that Biden and his party espoused from 2017 through 2020?


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"Believe All Women" is a catch phrase, not a literal call to immediately convict anybody accused.

If you wanted to make it perfectly accurate it would be "take all accusations seriously and thoroughly investigate giving the abused woman the benefit of the doubt that she's being good faith until proven otherwise".

But that's not catchy is it?

But the only reason you didn't interpret it that way immediately is because you perceive it as being a leftist issue. If it was a right-leaning issue you would bend over backwards for years to defend its validity.


I think Thor is mostly right on this.

The notion that we should take all accusations from women of sexual assault seriously is a positive development. And Tara Reade's accusation was not completely meritless. The argument in favor of her story still has some merit... because the reasons to take it seriously back then still apply. But there's enough going against her, particularly in light of her infatuation with Russia, that the claim no longer has any merit worth considering.

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I think Thor is mostly right on this.

The notion that we should take all accusations from women of sexual assault seriously is a positive development. And Tara Reade's accusation was not completely meritless. The argument in favor of her story still has some merit... because the reasons to take it seriously back then still apply. But there's enough going against her, particularly in light of her infatuation with Russia, that the claim no longer has any merit worth considering.


She had a consistent story for 20 years that everybody corroborated and then she changed the story to be that he assaulted her.

It's pretty clear she was looking for a pay day.

Which is doubly ironic since conservatives accuse every woman of just wanting that or wanting clout and the only one they have against Biden is legitimately that

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She had a consistent story for 20 years that everybody corroborated and then she changed the story to be that he assaulted her.

It's pretty clear she was looking for a pay day.

Which is doubly ironic since conservatives accuse every woman of just wanting that or wanting clout and the only one they have against Biden is legitimately that

It isn't just conservatives, it's everyone. Stop twisting the narrative to fit your agenda. ;)
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Jun 4 2023 01:58am
https://time.com/6283951/tara-reade-biden-russia-absolutely-false/

The White House made sure to put out an official statement denying that Biden planned to have Tara Reade assassinated.

Besides, its just proof she's not a rational, intelligent person. If she were smart, she'd know that the US government would never assassinate her and make a martyr when they could just arrest her and charge her with a bunch of phony crimes and then have the media talk about how she's a notorious criminal.
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FBI is Afraid Their Biden Informant Will be Killed if Unmasked
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Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 4 2023 03:58am)
https://time.com/6283951/tara-reade-biden-russia-absolutely-false/

The White House made sure to put out an official statement denying that Biden planned to have Tara Reade assassinated.

Besides, its just proof she's not a rational, intelligent person. If she were smart, she'd know that the US government would never assassinate her and make a martyr when they could just arrest her and charge her with a bunch of phony crimes and then have the media talk about how she's a notorious criminal.


I guess this is evidence of how nutty you've become? You think Biden's accuser defecting to Russia is legitimate because the government might assassinate her? Because of her sexual assault accusation that turned out to be more of a nothingburger than any Trump scandal?
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Quote (IceMage @ Jun 9 2023 05:40am)
I guess this is evidence of how nutty you've become? You think Biden's accuser defecting to Russia is legitimate because the government might assassinate her? Because of her sexual assault accusation that turned out to be more of a nothingburger than any Trump scandal?


Pretty sure I just explained in that post how the US government would never assassinate her when its clearly been our M.O. to just conjure up criminal charges to persecute people.
In case you missed it, they already deliberated about filing perjury charges against Tara Reade and left that door open. Its not just predictable, its something they already laid the groundwork for.
If Tara Reade had kept speaking out against Biden, and especially if she became central to any impeachment, I'd say its a high probability she'd magically be arrested on criminal charges.

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According to Thursday's announcement, the District Attorney's Office called Reade as an expert witness on 10 domestic violence cases between 2006 and 2019; seven of those cases were felonies (and one of those felonies had two defendants) and four other cases were misdemeanors. On the stand and under oath, Reade testified she obtained an undergraduate degree, usually specifying it was from Antioch College in Seattle.

In the co-defendant felony case, a second felony case and in one misdemeanor case, she testified she had not taken the California Bar exam.

According to an assistant general counsel at the California State Bar, Reade took and failed the bar exam twice before she testified to the contrary in those three cases. And according to Antioch University, Reade never graduated from the school and was never conferred a degree by that institution.

Last May, the Weekly broke the story that several local defense attorneys were investigating Reade's credentials after she testified as an expert witness in the co-defendant felony case, news that resulted from a prior Weekly story about Reade's longstanding connections to Monterey County, both as an expert witness and as a legal services coordinator with the YWCA Monterey County.

At the time of the story regarding local defense attorneys taking issue with her credentials, Reade told the Weekly her degree from Antioch University in Seattle was conferred under special circumstances by former Chancellor Toni Murdock. Reade had recently changed her identity following the separation from a man she described as a deeply abusive ex-husband. In order to fulfill her graduation requirements, Reade said she had to present coursework completed prior to her identity change. She also claimed that her unofficial transcript from the Seattle School of Law showed her degree from Antioch University.

Her attorney, Daniel Hornal, took issue with the DA's press release, saying "at best" Reade is mistaken about her degree, and not a liar. At the time she was at Antioch, she went through a sealed name change, including a legal change of her social security number, and her previous credits were earned under a name she no longer can legally use. He provided an email exchange between Reade and the school in which Reade tells them she's a graduate, and offers to teach.
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