Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 27 2020 11:08am)

yes that did work quite well in the americas. just in case you're not aware most historians agree that almost all of the sickness passed on from Europeans to native in America was incidental. for years stories of smallpox infected blankets being traded to the natives were passed around. but that seems out of place with what they even understood about germs at the time, and there's very little historical backing.

we've grown so accustomed to thinking of settler vs indian interactions as deeply violent and contentious, when in reality most of the early interactions were trading expeditions. and the sickness the white man brought the natives, while incidental, was a big part in what formed such a contentious relationship. that and the white mans unquenchable thirst for more land.

most of the worst one sided atrocities came in the last stage of this conflict. broken treaties, followed by the trail of tears, followed by the poorly planned reservations (or in reality maliciously planned), followed by "re-culturing schools". this completed the genocidal cycle, their wills broken they were subjected to the worst punishment they could have been. an oral history culture had its chain of history broken forever with no chance to recover. we still cant even be sure of the tribes, languages, religions, and history that was lost.

Quote (thesnipa @ 27 Jan 2020 18:08)

yes that did work quite well in the americas. just in case you're not aware most historians agree that almost all of the sickness passed on from Europeans to native in America was incidental. for years stories of smallpox infected blankets being traded to the natives were passed around. but that seems out of place with what they even understood about germs at the time, and there's very little historical backing.

we've grown so accustomed to thinking of settler vs indian interactions as deeply violent and contentious, when in reality most of the early interactions were trading expeditions. and the sickness the white man brought the natives, while incidental, was a big part in what formed such a contentious relationship. that and the white mans unquenchable thirst for more land.

most of the worst one sided atrocities came in the last stage of this conflict. broken treaties, followed by the trail of tears, followed by the poorly planned reservations (or in reality maliciously planned), followed by "re-culturing schools". this completed the genocidal cycle, their wills broken they were subjected to the worst punishment they could have been. an oral history culture had its chain of history broken forever with no chance to recover. we still cant even be sure of the tribes, languages, religions, and history that was lost.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 27 2020 11:13am)

Was it believed to by systematic? Because I had only ever heard of it being one military operation

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Biological warfare
The spread of disease from European contact was not always accidental. The relative immunity of European populations to such diseases meant that they could serve as an effective biological weapon.[12]

The Siege of Fort Pitt took place during June and July 1763 in what is now the city of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United States. The siege was a part of Pontiac's War, an effort by Native Americans to remove the British from the Ohio Country and Allegheny Plateau after they refused to honor their promises and treaties to leave voluntarily after the defeat of the French. The Native American efforts to remove the British from Fort Pitt ultimately failed.

This event is best known as an early instance of biological warfare, in which the British gave items from a smallpox infirmary as gifts to Native American emissaries Turtleheart and Mamaltee with the hope of spreading the deadly disease to nearby tribes, as documented in William Trent's journal[13]. The effectiveness is unknown, although the method used is inefficient compared to respiratory transmission and any results of these attempts to spread the disease are difficult to differentiate from naturally occurring epidemics.[14][15]

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 27 2020 11:19am)

I'm aware of that, I was just dishing out some really dark humor. Still a good read btw, ty!

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jan 27 2020 10:46pm)

Such a pathetic shitty bad faith, never said it only kill men. I was pointing a very important related to virus propagation, honestly when i see this OMG what a fucked answer, never try again.

Your point is as much fucked as your poll. Sack of shit topic.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jan 26 2020 09:54pm)

Mostly old men with pre-existing conditions (classic complications associated with flu)
Still able to have "social activities" (going outside...) to get contaminated.

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this is possibly the least funny meme in history

Quote (ThatAlex @ Jan 27 2020 02:46pm)

This Coronavirus outbreak could be come a low-level pandemic based on its current spread. It's probably a little worse than most strains of influenza since we have no vaccinations for it and it tends to cause more respiratory problems. It will likely be a bigger threat to people with immunodeficiencies, pulmonary diseases, and the elderly.

Most healthy people probably shouldn't worry about this anymore than they do about the flu. That said, everyone go get your flu shot if you haven't already.

-Your local big pharma quack

Quote (ThatAlex @ Jan 28 2020 03:46am)

This Coronavirus outbreak could be come a low-level pandemic based on its current spread. It's probably a little worse than most strains of influenza since we have no vaccinations for it and it tends to cause more respiratory problems. It will likely be a bigger threat to people with immunodeficiencies, pulmonary diseases, and the elderly.

Most healthy people probably shouldn't worry about this anymore than they do about the flu. That said, everyone go get your flu shot if you haven't already.

-Your local big pharma quack