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Jan 13 2020 02:16pm
I posted this 10 days ago and only skinned replied lol
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Jan 13 2020 11:55pm
I heard he deserved it.
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Jan 20 2020 08:53pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 13 2020 10:55am)
We do that too, they get contracted out to cheap labor for private companies


I really don't think this is true in most cases. The incarceration costs for an inmate are what, 50k a year? Plus factor in all of the other legal court fees/parole/aspects. Private Prisons are not the norm. Most are Federal DOC. Most prison work helps, key word help, cover the massive costs incarceration contains and helps keep inmates minds busy, which is actually kind of helpful for reducing violence. A significant portion of inmates want to work because there's nothing else to do. Incarcerating individuals overall is still a deficit, not a profit.

Quick Googling..

"When private companies contract with prisons, the labor isn’t cheap. Federal law requires contractors to pay minimum wage for inmate work. The state may garnish those wages to cover the costs of incarceration. If inmates working for private contractors are cheated of a fair wage, the fault lies not with the business that hires prisoners but the system that confines them."

"According to the Vera Institute of Justice, incarceration costs an average of more than $31,000 per inmate, per year, nationwide. In some states, it's as much as $60,000."

Someone feel free to cross check, would be interested in all of this.
And there likely still are some for profit private prisons, but I know those are definitely not the norm and most are DOJ. Which, I don't agree with private for profit prisons either.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Jan 20 2020 09:12pm
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I really don't think this is true in most cases. The incarceration costs for an inmate are what, 50k a year? Plus factor in all of the other legal court fees/parole/aspects. Private Prisons are not the norm. Most are Federal DOC. Most prison work helps, key word help, cover the massive costs incarceration contains and helps keep inmates minds busy, which is actually kind of helpful for reducing violence. A significant portion of inmates want to work because there's nothing else to do. Incarcerating individuals overall is still a deficit, not a profit.

Quick Googling..

"When private companies contract with prisons, the labor isn’t cheap. Federal law requires contractors to pay minimum wage for inmate work. The state may garnish those wages to cover the costs of incarceration. If inmates working for private contractors are cheated of a fair wage, the fault lies not with the business that hires prisoners but the system that confines them."

"According to the Vera Institute of Justice, incarceration costs an average of more than $31,000 per inmate, per year, nationwide. In some states, it's as much as $60,000."

Someone feel free to cross check, would be interested in all of this.
And there likely still are some for profit private prisons, but I know those are definitely not the norm and most are DOJ. Which, I don't agree with private for profit prisons either.


You know minimum wage is jack shit right?
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Jan 20 2020 10:53pm)
You know minimum wage is jack shit right?


Most factory workers get paid close to minimum wage. Do you know this?
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Quote (GLYC123 @ Jan 21 2020 09:26pm)
Most factory workers get paid close to minimum wage. Do you know this?


The average Factory Worker salary in USA is $25,406 per year or $13.03 per hour. Entry level positions start at $18,525 per year while most experienced workers make up to $43,190 per year.
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The average Factory Worker salary in USA is $25,406 per year or $13.03 per hour. Entry level positions start at $18,525 per year while most experienced workers make up to $43,190 per year.


Yep. And the average incarceration cost is $31k+. Which is subtracted in part from their wage.

Maybe more experienced skilled workers. And even that I would say is false in most cases. 40k is $19 an hour. A lot of college grads don't even hit that in Minnesota. Prisoners are not doing top tier complex work traditionally. I've seen the work they do, the facility I visited they were folding balloons.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Jan 21 2020 04:45am
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Jan 21 2020 05:28am)
The average Factory Worker salary in USA is $25,406 per year or $13.03 per hour. Entry level positions start at $18,525 per year while most experienced workers make up to $43,190 per year.


Benefits usually make up 60+% of wage costs these days. I wouldn't forget that part.
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