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Nov 20 2019 02:03pm
Quote (Haj @ 20 Nov 2019 20:28)
its not something i claim its a fact trust me i did the research.. go look it up if u want

sure many games has skill bar but that doesnt mean they belong in diablo.. cuz with skill bar comes cooldowns, which imo does not belong in diablo either


Hmm history of cooldowns, Blizzard Warcraft 1? Blizzard spell?
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Nov 20 2019 02:20pm
Quote (Tommy_The_Boy @ 20 Nov 2019 15:34)
This is a an apples to oranges comparison with what the OP was alluding to.

Diablo 1 was a game designed for PC.

2 years after the initial release it was ported to PS1. Idk if you played the port, but it was very bad by today's standards. It was clear when playing that the game was not designed to be played on console.

This is like saying that starcraft was a n64 game just because it was ported to n64. While they did their best porting SC to N64, it was still painfully clear that the game was not intended to be played any way other than mouse+keyboard.

If Diablo 1 and Starcraft were designed with console in mind first, and pc in mind second they would've both been very different games.

While the OP might be exaggerating a tad bit, he has a valid point that blizzard designing these games around how they play on console is very bad for the game when played on PC.


Ok, take 6 six active skills limit for example - it was decision about "build diversity" and has nothing to do with consoles. Even in D3 - you can set w/e hotkeys you want.
So I still think the situation where the franchise ended up really has nothing to do with consoles, it is just about strange (or stupid if you want) management decisions.
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Nov 20 2019 02:47pm
Quote (Haj @ Nov 20 2019 11:28am)
its not something i claim its a fact trust me i did the research.. go look it up if u want

sure many games has skill bar but that doesnt mean they belong in diablo.. cuz with skill bar comes cooldowns, which imo does not belong in diablo either

Post your research.

No one is disputing that diablo 3 was developed with multiple platforms in mind. Not sure what point you’re trying to make.
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Quote (Madmaxio @ Nov 20 2019 12:20pm)
Ok, take 6 six active skills limit for example - it was decision about "build diversity" and has nothing to do with consoles. Even in D3 - you can set w/e hotkeys you want.
So I still think the situation where the franchise ended up really has nothing to do with consoles, it is just about strange (or stupid if you want) management decisions.

Yes, exactly. Why is he struggling to understand that lol
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Nov 20 2019 03:29pm
Quote (Haj @ Nov 20 2019 02:28pm)
its not something i claim its a fact trust me i did the research.. go look it up if u want

sure many games has skill bar but that doesnt mean they belong in diablo.. cuz with skill bar comes cooldowns, which imo does not belong in diablo either


I checked it out some and diablo wiki says they started developing a console port in 2011 (3 years after pc development started) but didn't really get going til the pc version had already been released
https://www.diablowiki.net/Diablo_3_console

Skill bars don't bring cooldowns :bonk: d2 had cooldowns and no skill bar. The bar and cooldowns are blizzard incorporating features from wow in diablo.
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Quote (JayDub @ Nov 20 2019 01:29pm)
I checked it out some and diablo wiki says they started developing a console port in 2011 (3 years after pc development started) but didn't really get going til the pc version had already been released
https://www.diablowiki.net/Diablo_3_console

Skill bars don't bring cooldowns :bonk: d2 had cooldowns and no skill bar. The bar and cooldowns are blizzard incorporating features from wow in diablo.


Quote (Haj @ Nov 20 2019 11:28am)
its not something i claim its a fact trust me i did the research.. go look it up if u want

sure many games has skill bar but that doesnt mean they belong in diablo.. cuz with skill bar comes cooldowns, which imo does not belong in diablo either


post your research
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Nov 20 2019 03:33pm
Quote (MidWinter @ Nov 20 2019 04:31pm)
post your research

I left a link

It's in the post

Or were you asking for the other guys research?

This post was edited by JayDub on Nov 20 2019 03:34pm
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Quote (JayDub @ Nov 20 2019 01:33pm)
I left a link

It's in the post

Or were you asking for the other guys research?


other guy, obviously
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Nov 20 2019 03:40pm
Quote (MidWinter @ Nov 20 2019 04:35pm)
other guy, obviously


Yeah, lol I didn't notice that you quoted both of us until after I posted that
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Nov 20 2019 06:27pm
do u honestly think they just went "ohh lets release for consoles aswell" out of the blue? ofc it was allways the plan and everyone knows that lol, just common facts

i did say go look it up if u want but u guys dont read - not gonna provide evidence if u dont believe it i dont care lol

as for the cooldown skill bar thing people just dont see the problem i guess because they like the skill bar lol
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