Why is then botting illegal?

Well since we'll never have a poll of the entire Diablo 2 player base to find their preference for bots or against bots, we can just believe whatever it is we want. If you honestly believe the community prefers bots it's probably due to living in the jsp bubble. Or maybe you just don't care what the community wants because you know whats best for them.

I'm not putting forth a standard, you have the option to play on non-ladder. The rest either have to go to a private server (that bans bots) or single player.

This post was edited by ishthefish on Jun 21 2019 12:51am

Well, it's true that botting is illegal - but so is trading d2jsp. I notice that you have 2.5k fg there and it was probably earned through "illegal" activity. Please don't misunderstand me though, I'm a huge supporter of jsp. When we say that these actions are illegal, it isn't in the criminal sense - it's just a breach of the Blizzard EULA. I think a good analogy to botting would be jaywalking - technically illegal but not really enforcable or considered unethical by the majority of the community.

This is the false equivalency I'm talking about. Botting has a huge impact on the game, jsp doesn't.

edit: when has blizzard banned someone for trading on a third party website

Also, just because we're committing illegal activity doesn't exclude us from criticizing the illegal activity of others.

This post was edited by ishthefish on Jun 21 2019 01:07am

You're joking right?

Jsp is the reason ingame trading is dead
Jsp is the reason people are able to get enigma day 1 of ladder
Jsp is the reason so many people bot (trading without jsp would defeat the point of botting)
Jsp takes up more time for most players than the actual game does

Suggesting jsp has a small game impact is just willful stupidity

I'm not equating using jsp to botting - I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of using the argument that "botting is prohibited" while using jsp at the same time.

As for impact, I would argue that jsp has a much much huger impact on the d2 community by far compared to botting (and it's overwhelmingly positive in my view). If all bots vanished next ladder, the effect would mostly be price fluctuations on jsp, and lower item accessibility - but prices will slowly readjust and the game will be fine. If jsp vanished, it is likely that a large percentage of the player base would vanish along with it.

Regarding Blizzard bans, this is a nonsense argument. Blizzard can't ban someone for using a third party website not because they don't want to, but because it is impossible to enforce. How can they prove that a specific person used one? Bots on the other hand can be directly detected through their gaming platform - and even then, their attempts at banning have been half-hearted at best - and arguably in their own financial interest since botters are constantly buying new CD keys.

It shows you havent played d2 in 10 years. This is all common knowledge.

Play the game to enjoy it, if you focus on fg without proper planning, your d2 experience is going to be tainted by the greed of fg.

Always think of the fact that at any time you are playing you have the smallest chance at looting rares worth thousands of fg. That can keep a guy farming for a bit anyways. What do i know though, i havent played seriously in like 2 years.

JSP is also the reason D2 is still alive.

No one would play this game if 3 weeks into ladder there were 24 shakos and 1 ber on the whole realm.

It's a double edged sword.

2. How??? Do you mean from botters?
3. People would still bot if jsp didn't exist. This is willfully ignorant.

None of those factors affect the economy. Bots put thousands of hours into the game. That's huge.

This post was edited by ishthefish on Jun 21 2019 01:18am

Yeah, you are definitely right.