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Jul 11 2019 10:50am
Quote (Algorhythm @ 11 Jul 2019 14:15)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0XmhbWgl8s

The tanker was escorted by British military ship.
I think Iranians knew they couldn't without targeting the escort military vessel, so this is like a warning shot.
I guess British tankers need military escorts near Hormuz now.


that dumb faux news broad really thinks that america is in the right there and the UN only has to hold iran responsible in this conflict, even though the US unilaterally cancelled the deal. how ignorant can you be?

that being said, the sanctions against iran are definitely working. their economy is collapsing, innocent people are suffering, and the radical forces in the country are strengthened - the trump administration is literally doing everything in their power to escalate the situation short of outright declaring war...
how shitty do you have to act to lose the moral highground to a despicaple theocratic dictatorship like iran? seriously...
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Jul 11 2019 12:06pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jul 11 2019 05:20pm)
Delirious talks, result of the propaganda from a country which has spread chaos, war, and death in the past decades.
Such weapons in the hand of a country like Iran would only means peace, that what YOU - or some of your leaders from far right Israel gov - do not want.

Hopefully the story will stop right here... US lost a large part of its influence and can't afford to do war with Iran IMO. Game over.



Doesn't it just follow logically that Saudi Arabia would seek to arm if Iran obtained nuclear weapons?
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Jul 11 2019 03:46pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Jul 11 2019 09:06pm)
Doesn't it just follow logically that Saudi Arabia would seek to arm if Iran obtained nuclear weapons?


The only way Saudi can get a nuclear weapons is if America actively helps them to do so. Not happening. Turkey on the other hand...
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Jul 11 2019 03:56pm
Quote (Algorhythm @ Jul 11 2019 04:46pm)
The only way Saudi can get a nuclear weapons is if America actively helps them to do so. Not happening. Turkey on the other hand...


we made them 75 years ago without the internet.

i dont think rogue states could make a good deploy-able long distance nuke. but a dirty bomb nuke? yup.
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Jul 11 2019 04:04pm
nvm

This post was edited by Algorhythm on Jul 11 2019 04:09pm
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Jul 11 2019 04:07pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 12 2019 12:56am)
we made them 75 years ago without the internet.

i dont think rogue states could make a good deploy-able long distance nuke. but a dirty bomb nuke? yup.


Rogue states like who? To me USA is rogue state :)
Nuclear weapons need an industrial infrastructure and a large one too. Iran has a decent one... not tier one but it exists. Saudi doesn't have any industrial capabilities.
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Jul 11 2019 04:14pm
Quote (Algorhythm @ Jul 11 2019 05:07pm)
Rogue states like who? To me USA is rogue state :)
Nuclear weapons need an industrial infrastructure and a large one too. Iran has a decent one... not tier one but it exists. Saudi doesn't have any industrial capabilities.


rogue state would be dependent on the context. in the context of nuclear proliferation any state looking to secretly develop nukes or develop them openly against the wishes of the UN nuclear council would be a rogue state.

in the context of defining the word "football" the USA is a rogue state.

im a bit confused how 2019 Saudi Arabia with all of their money can't match 1942 USA tho. especially when all of the development is all in basic textbooks for the most part for the old inefficient bombs.
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Jul 11 2019 04:28pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 12 2019 01:14am)
rogue state would be dependent on the context. in the context of nuclear proliferation any state looking to secretly develop nukes or develop them openly against the wishes of the UN nuclear council would be a rogue state.


Im curious, by this definition and context do you consider Israel a rogue state?

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in the context of defining the word "football" the USA is a rogue state.


:rofl: :rofl: :thumbsup:
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Jul 11 2019 04:32pm
Quote (Algorhythm @ Jul 11 2019 05:28pm)
Im curious, by this definition and context do you consider Israel a rogue state?



:rofl: :rofl: :thumbsup:


Most certainly. Israel being allowed to have and also hide how many nukes they have is an injustice. its nowhere near the top of the list of reasons they're hated in the ME but it certainly doesnt help. im a bit flexible on it i suppose, i think nukes in the region might be needed to stop a holy war, but i dont think Israel should have the button in their hands.
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Jul 12 2019 06:21pm
Old but insightful video.
Explains in nutshell why Trump is able to get EU to comply with sanctions, and also how Britain could seize an Iranian tanker like they did (in short, they can't be insured due to sanctions so no one else but Iran's toes are stepped on).
Actually, entire series about Iran on this channel is worth watching if someone want to get a better understanding of the situation.



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