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Apr 22 2019 08:44am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGRC5AA1wF0

This link has somewhat working subtitles for those who struggle making out what zizek says , was impossible for me to comprehend him otherwise but I'm half deaf. Just turn on the subtitles in bottom right.



Is “half deaf” a new alt right dog whistle you fucking racist
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Apr 22 2019 09:57am
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Is “half deaf” a new alt right dog whistle you fucking racist


It means I can't hear in my left ear.
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Apr 23 2019 10:14am
Sad there's not more talk on this. Guess the forum must be overrun with Peterson fans who want to pretend it never happened.
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Apr 23 2019 10:24am
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Sad there's not more talk on this. Guess the forum must be overrun with Peterson fans who want to pretend it never happened.


before i clicked the thread and read your post i already knew you'd announced victory against JBP.

the other guy could have committed harikari on stage and admitted communism is a failed ideology and you'd still say Peterson lost.

have you worked out the whole "JBP refuses to call trans people by their chosen pronouns" bit that someone force fed you yet?
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Apr 23 2019 10:30am
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before i clicked the thread and read your post i already knew you'd announced victory against JBP.

the other guy could have committed harikari on stage and admitted communism is a failed ideology and you'd still say Peterson lost.

have you worked out the whole "JBP refuses to call trans people by their chosen pronouns" bit that someone force fed you yet?


Uwotm8?

Zizek also did poorly. I don't think either won any debate here. It was just super clear Peterson doesn't have the first fucking clue what Marxism means even though he goes on about it constantly. Peterson was an embarrassment.

Zizek was... Zizek.

As for the pronouns thing Peterson misrepresented bill c16 to cause panic and 'monetise SJWs'... By which he means monetise reactionaries. He did say he'd refuse to use non-binary pronouns because he considers them 'made up' but that is hardly the worst of his faults.
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Apr 23 2019 10:35am
Quote (TransTankie @ Apr 23 2019 11:30am)
Uwotm8?

Zizek also did poorly. I don't think either won any debate here. It was just super clear Peterson doesn't have the first fucking clue what Marxism means even though he goes on about it constantly. Peterson was an embarrassment.

Zizek was... Zizek.

As for the pronouns thing Peterson misrepresented bill c16 to cause panic and 'monetise SJWs'... By which he means monetise reactionaries. He did say he'd refuse to use non-binary pronouns because he considers them 'made up' but that is hardly the worst of his faults.


Peterson lucked into monetizing his current career. He didn't intend to be what he is now. He was just some random psychology professor in Canada and now somehow people are using him as their idol to represent classical liberalism and whatever else he talks about.

This debate should have been Zizek vs Stephen Pinker.
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Apr 23 2019 10:35am
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Sad there's not more talk on this. Guess the forum must be overrun with Peterson fans who want to pretend it never happened.


what do you want to talk about? lets all agree you are right what else do you want? basically you want to find someone who has different view than you so you can argue. your whole aim is to argue no to find solution. I think you just find meaning in that so here you got. Before you attack me you must understand that I already agree with whatever you are going to say
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Apr 23 2019 10:37am
Quote (TransTankie @ Apr 23 2019 11:30am)
Uwotm8?

Zizek also did poorly. I don't think either won any debate here. It was just super clear Peterson doesn't have the first fucking clue what Marxism means even though he goes on about it constantly. Peterson was an embarrassment.

Zizek was... Zizek.

As for the pronouns thing Peterson misrepresented bill c16 to cause panic and 'monetise SJWs'... By which he means monetise reactionaries. He did say he'd refuse to use non-binary pronouns because he considers them 'made up' but that is hardly the worst of his faults.


Now that you've gone back to being trans you're an SJW commie? Weren't you anti-SJW some months ago?
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Apr 23 2019 10:45am
Quote (TransTankie @ Apr 23 2019 10:30am)
Uwotm8?

Zizek also did poorly. I don't think either won any debate here. It was just super clear Peterson doesn't have the first fucking clue what Marxism means even though he goes on about it constantly. Peterson was an embarrassment.

Zizek was... Zizek.

As for the pronouns thing Peterson misrepresented bill c16 to cause panic and 'monetise SJWs'... By which he means monetise reactionaries. He did say he'd refuse to use non-binary pronouns because he considers them 'made up' but that is hardly the worst of his faults.


your memory fails you. we covered both these points before, Peterson is an academic with degrees in a field that directly covers the rise of Marxism. is he a doctorate candidate in Marxism specifically, no. does he have years worth of graduate level study in the rise of authoritarianism in Europe? yes, he of course does, as any cursory glance at his Wiki page would tell anyone bothering to read it. do i sound a bit annoyed, well i have to admit telling you the same thing over again does get a bit boring. i guess when you leave our conversations and go back to bias confirming left winged rags that continually repeat bullshit about the man it's easy to wash out basic facts. Peterson has a psychological perspective to studying Marxism, and he disagrees with the aims of the system. that's all. he finds it antithetical to his goals as an individual and dislikes where it's led historically, and he's studied it. to be frank with you this is just a no-true-scotsmen argument of sorts that hacks use against Peterson when they find simple disagreement not to their liking. I mean why bother to actually understand his positions when you can find inconsequential aspects of Marxism and pull from a 2 hour long lecture to string together a bullshit video of Peterson to make it look like he has zero understanding of Marxism.

as to the pronouns stuff you should stop watching Tumblr hate compilations, or, again, just remember when i set the record straight for you. again. maybe the 4th time now. Peterson said he wouldn't make any blanket statements about respecting pronouns because the law was requiring it, he said this was an authoritarian law. it of course is, objectively, but you and anyone else can of course agree with allowing ANY authoritarian measure in a trade for security. that is how governments in a "free society" work, there is no free society. again, something Peterson recognizes, but disagreed with. he was then asked if he would respect personal requests to call people by their individual chosen pronoun, he answered the question in a realistic context and said if a student or someone at a lecture asked him he would of course respect their request. that last bit is something you've scooted over maybe 10 times in PARD. just acknowledge it, stop being biased and afraid to actually research something that isn't an SJW opinion rag. also you lied for years now about how JBP misrepresented the law, and we're seeing the law play out exactly like he said it would. Twitter has even adopted basically the same rule. its pure unadulterated language policing, which, again, you can agree is necessary from your personal view.

i dont like JBP, i find many of his ideas on personal conduct to be oversimplified and regressive as well as targeting a group of young males who are generally cry babies and wuss bags. i dont agree with his stance on Communism/Socialism generally. i dont agree with his approach to almost anything. but when i read someone like you who is heavily invested in the topic of Trans rights just ignorantly spewing propaganda, because i'm sure of a combination of pot stirring and that good feeling you get down when you scratch at a bias, it's really shameful. when the guy was a random flash in the pan figure your ignorance was excusable, now tho it's really just confirmation you're so dug in on the issue that you're literally scared to research and change your mind. how brave, scared of a WIKI article.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Apr 23 2019 10:48am
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