Quote (TransTankie @ Apr 23 2019 10:30am)
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Zizek also did poorly. I don't think either won any debate here. It was just super clear Peterson doesn't have the first fucking clue what Marxism means even though he goes on about it constantly. Peterson was an embarrassment.
Zizek was... Zizek.
As for the pronouns thing Peterson misrepresented bill c16 to cause panic and 'monetise SJWs'... By which he means monetise reactionaries. He did say he'd refuse to use non-binary pronouns because he considers them 'made up' but that is hardly the worst of his faults.
your memory fails you. we covered both these points before, Peterson is an academic with degrees in a field that directly covers the rise of Marxism. is he a doctorate candidate in Marxism specifically, no. does he have years worth of graduate level study in the rise of authoritarianism in Europe? yes, he of course does, as any cursory glance at his Wiki page would tell anyone bothering to read it. do i sound a bit annoyed, well i have to admit telling you the same thing over again does get a bit boring. i guess when you leave our conversations and go back to bias confirming left winged rags that continually repeat bullshit about the man it's easy to wash out basic facts. Peterson has a psychological perspective to studying Marxism, and he disagrees with the aims of the system. that's all. he finds it antithetical to his goals as an individual and dislikes where it's led historically, and he's studied it. to be frank with you this is just a no-true-scotsmen argument of sorts that hacks use against Peterson when they find simple disagreement not to their liking. I mean why bother to actually understand his positions when you can find inconsequential aspects of Marxism and pull from a 2 hour long lecture to string together a bullshit video of Peterson to make it look like he has zero understanding of Marxism.
as to the pronouns stuff you should stop watching Tumblr hate compilations, or, again, just remember when i set the record straight for you. again. maybe the 4th time now. Peterson said he wouldn't make any blanket statements about respecting pronouns because the law was requiring it, he said this was an authoritarian law. it of course is, objectively, but you and anyone else can of course agree with allowing ANY authoritarian measure in a trade for security. that is how governments in a "free society" work, there is no free society. again, something Peterson recognizes, but disagreed with. he was then asked if he would respect personal requests to call people by their individual chosen pronoun, he answered the question in a realistic context and said if a student or someone at a lecture asked him he would of course respect their request. that last bit is something you've scooted over maybe 10 times in PARD. just acknowledge it, stop being biased and afraid to actually research something that isn't an SJW opinion rag. also you lied for years now about how JBP misrepresented the law, and we're seeing the law play out exactly like he said it would. Twitter has even adopted basically the same rule. its pure unadulterated language policing, which, again, you can agree is necessary from your personal view.
i dont like JBP, i find many of his ideas on personal conduct to be oversimplified and regressive as well as targeting a group of young males who are generally cry babies and wuss bags. i dont agree with his stance on Communism/Socialism generally. i dont agree with his approach to almost anything. but when i read someone like you who is heavily invested in the topic of Trans rights just ignorantly spewing propaganda, because i'm sure of a combination of pot stirring and that good feeling you get down when you scratch at a bias, it's really shameful. when the guy was a random flash in the pan figure your ignorance was excusable, now tho it's really just confirmation you're so dug in on the issue that you're literally scared to research and change your mind. how brave, scared of a WIKI article.
This post was edited by thesnipa on Apr 23 2019 10:48am