brown doesnt mean africans. also, anybody who knows exploration history knows what i said. dont slander me vuz ur ignorant

i like how you said "black and brown" then "brown doesn't mean africans" as if i'm the one confused about what you said. then called me ignorant.

let's ask a question you can answer, Chris, where are black people from. and is it in "the americas".



since u might need a reminder.


This post was edited by thesnipa on Apr 19 2019 01:10pm

the americas yes, including nearby islands. south america had really dark people, not just africa

This post was edited by ChrisKz on Apr 19 2019 01:15pm

ok, christopher, let's go through this SLOWLY:

here is inkanddagger's post, he's the user you originally responded to:



if you're ready to move on here is your, chriskz@d2jsp.org's (it even says it in there, neat huh?), response:



so to combat the claim Ink made about the white race being the most exploitative overall, you responded that some brown and black (or at least they look black to you) people at some point ate some white explorers?

so to combat centuries of slave trade, colonialism, missionary missions, and genocide you cite the incredibly small number of explorers eaten by the vast minority of south americans who were 100% cannibals?

you're proud of comparing millions or even billions of lives affected by whites to maybe 100 MAX white dudes getting eaten in the "exploration days"? that was good? you did a good?


listen chris, ink was being hyperbolic, otherwise he's being a bit silly. but to compared ALL of what white people have done with just the cannibalism done to explorers? calm down and think while you post.

Won't somebody please think of the Christians.

That's an ignorant statement.

White people committing atrocities is well documented at points in our own history.
But that doesn't mean this doesn't exist or hasn't existed in other cultures with other races as well.
Probably even to worse degrees in some cultures.

I mean. You do realize there's slavery still out there in other countries right? And genocide. Forced labor. Etc.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Apr 19 2019 07:06pm

They're just buildings no biggie, can just rebuild

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Watch outside so we wont see what is happening at home

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Apr 19 2019 07:47pm

'Exploration history' XD.

I have in fact studied Early Modern history - including the early European voyages to the Americas. Different people reacted in different ways to foreigners on their shores. Sometimes they killed them, sometimes they enslaved them, sometimes they gave them gifts and looked after them. Montezuma gave Cortez a shitload of gold, the people gave gifts and regarded the spaniards as godlike. Cannibalism was relatively rare as far as we can tell. It definitely happened among the Mesoamerican Aztecs and Brazilian Tupinambá - we have evidence in fossilised faecal matter to prove it. However we don't know what kind of cannibalism we're talking about here. The tribes of the Amazon and Papua New Guinea are known to engage in what is known as 'mortuary cannibalism' in which they eat the flesh of the deceased as part of the funerary rites. The term Cannibal as well originates from Spanish explorers who called the people of the Americas 'Canibales'. Rumours abounded of them eating human flesh but even Columbus wrote in his diaries that there was no evidence to suggest it was true. Spectacular and fantastic stories of the Americas were commonplace. Montezuma is reported to have necromantic powers. The tribes of the Amazon supposedly rode the river on the backs of giant fish... and much is made of their savagery. The main defense for the conquerors when met with criticism, as ever with colonialisation, was the civilisation of the savage and so it became necessary to paint them in as savage a light as possible. Specifically for the Americas in the early modern period it was that they were proselytising and converting the populace to Christianity.

But yes - if you were alone and washed up on the shore the chances were you would be killed by the locals or taken into slavery. I can't remember much of it off the top of my head but there is the story of Jack Renton who was taken into slavery in the Solomon Islands in the 1800s and escaped... and it mentions no cannibalism whatsoever. Though it does mention shrunken heads. It's a cool story - you should look it up.

So yea - Cannibalism happened but to imply that it was ubiquitous or that the only fate that awaited lone white men who landed on the shores of the Americas was murder and cannibalism is extremely ignorant. To claim that it was even a likely event is to ignore the historical consensus. Hell many historians dispute whether it happened at all... I'm not in that camp though.

e/ Also it's worth noting that Europeans engaged in cannibalism of different kinds too. The remains of the dead have been used as medicines throughout history, human meat has been sold in markets during famines but also straight up murder and cannibalism occurred. Probably most notably during the first Crusade at Ma'Arra where Christians slaughtered and then ate the resident Muslims.

This post was edited by TransTankie on Apr 19 2019 11:04pm