Let's try again.

International law is a buzzword. States do not have sovereignty over one another, and the United Nations is not a sovereign power, so it literally does not exist.

The United States can make demands of other countries because it is a great power in the world. China can do the same, albeit to a lesser extent. European moralizers ought to keep their opinions to themselves. It's embarrassing to here someone screech about "the law", when everyone knows they can't do a damn thing about it.

Reminder; 95% of countries opposed/were disagree with the US embassy move to Jerusalem.
China has camps, but does not support Gaza lockup, so weird hu ?

European "moralizers" are the last stand.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Mar 22 2019 05:38am

China has camps, political prisoners, and practices genocide against unruly minorities. Are these things in the spirit of international "law"?

Of course not, but laws exist when they're backed by force, and obviously no one is going to hold China to account.

What 95% of countries believe means diddly squat.

yes ofc syria. you can't just annex an area, wait to a convenient point in time and then say, 'they are in disarray, what's the point of giving it back?'. despite israel's decade long effort to establish a reality that would justify it for practical reasons (by illegally settling the area, displacing the majority of its original inhabitants, destroying their cities, fields, and heavily restricting the remaining places), they are still a minority there. the people of the golan heights (mostly druze) feel much closer to their syrian brethren, and most of them rejected israeli citizenship.

when you say 'there is nobody to give it back to': how about the people who live there? how about its original inhabitants? stop the forced settling, stop the occupation and military suppression of the people there.

and speaking of 'illegitimate': what signal does it send to west bank and gaza when america starts legitimating the acquisition of land annexed by force?

sorry, but this policy shift is not based on any principle (otherwise america would stop sanctions against russia for the annexation of crimea, have no justification to pressure its allies to increase sanctions against iran....) but is simply an attempt to help out netanyahu in the upcoming elections and strengthen israel's right wing - which in itself is already a massive violation of international rules, regardless of the people in territories illegally occupied by israel.

This post was edited by fender on Mar 22 2019 07:20am

holy mother of all triggers, not a day without an anti israel topic
so aside from totally ignoring muslim aggression and constant terror attacks, whining about right wingers and trump the overall statement is true

the golan heights are illegally occupied territory, but will israel ever return it? of course not
if they do you can count the minutes until the next attacks

syria has lost it by constant warmongering, using the golan heights as the base for artillery attacks and also disrupting the water supply for millions of israelis

tough luck i would say, thats what happens when you start a war of destruction with the goal of another holocaust

i dont expect fender with his antisemitism to even consider the easiest path to peace

the arab world acknowledges israel and lays down their weapons, conflict over

This post was edited by ampoo on Mar 22 2019 07:21am

when you don't have arguments you just screech 'anti-semitism'. poo boy embracing his anti-intellectualism once again...

plenty of arguments there, one just needs to read
and when somebody literally speaks like hamas then the term antisemitism shouldnt be suprising

thankfully the israeli people cant afford to be moronic, muslim appeasing cucks or they wouldnt exist anymore

speaking out against the illegal occupation of territories is not an 'antisemitic' stance. i argued for the same in crimea, does that make me 'anti christian-orthodox'?. if you had any clue about the world outside your right wing echo chamber, you'd know that there's agreement about this in the whole world. i guess by your moronic logic that means everyone is 'antisemitic' then? no, that's just cowardly hiding behind religion in order to deflect from the actions of a right wing apartheid regime.

justifying violence, the murder, illegal arrest and detainment, torture, and imprisonment of people by hypothetical violence if you didn't do that is exactly what your historical idols did. no wonder you're in support of that approach. civilised nations don't support that though.

and of course *crickets about the fact that this is clearly a move to strengthen one particular political party in the upcoming knesset elections...

Did you miss this part?



As I said, there are some who try to make the false comparison for political reasons, but anyone with a modicum of intellectual honesty can see the huge differences between the situations.

This post was edited by ReturnFormer on Mar 22 2019 08:30am