Quote (HeLiCaL @ Feb 16 2019 11:46am)

emergency is IMMINENT DANGER - TRUMP GOAT

https://i.imgur.com/zAvg5TY.jpg

Quote (Beowulf @ Feb 16 2019 08:51pm)

Lol I like when you think you're making a certain point by spamming jpegs but you actually make the opposite point

The whole reason to have congress fight back on this abused declaration for a campaign promise emergency is to stop stuff like this at the Presidential level

Whoever coded you did such a poor job, it's embarrassing

Quote (HeLiCaL @ Feb 16 2019 12:05pm)

president turning anti-american leftists into constitutionalists, i love it

how does it feel to be molded ?

Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 16 2019 02:48pm)

Checking in

https://i.imgur.com/k8yVw4z.jpg

Hope you guys are doing ok too

Quote (fender @ Feb 16 2019 01:45pm)

i have a simple question for the trump supporters who think his national emergency declaration to fund the idiot bait wall is justified:

how can you still argue there actually IS an emergency going on despite his own admission that he 'didn't (even) need to do this' and just did it to get his wall 'much faster'?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NzqiWXrfL4

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Apprehensions of illegal crossers dropped to 303,916 in fiscal 2017, but they are rising again.

There were 50,998 apprehensions in October 2018; 51,857 in November; 50,749 in December; and 47,893 in January 2019. At this rate, there will be around 806,000 apprehensions in fiscal 2019, which will be two and a half times as many as there were in fiscal 2017.

The immigration courts are overwhelmed by their caseload already. As of Nov. 30, 2018, the courts had a backlog of 809,041 cases. This did not include an additional 330,211 cases that had not been put on the active docket yet, for a total backlog of 1,139,252 cases. The backlog was only 542,411 cases when Trump took office.

The average wait for a hearing is 1,018 days — more than two and a half years.

Quote (GLYC123 @ Feb 17 2019 11:00am)

Because it's an ongoing issue. The numbers are there. He didn't have to do anything, but he chooses to because he wants to fix a problem.
Why wait a longer period of time to fix an issue that will only further get out of hand? That doesn't make much sense.

Quote (Beowulf @ Feb 17 2019 01:07pm)

you mean like 2 failed years with full power and didn't do shit, a failed bluff shutdown, and signing a bill that is terrible for the President while declaring a fake emergency that is going to get struck down solely for his 2020 campaigning?

no emergency
it's all for 2020

and just like his first 2 years it'll go in the record books as a fail

but hey now at least we get to have the democrats abuse the national emergencies for campaign promises in 2 years which is always great for the country /s and we will get to watch Republican leadership cry even more buckets of hypocritical tears like they were a few short years ago

Quote (GLYC123 @ Feb 17 2019 11:20am)

We've already discussed the process of having a funding bill passed.
"No emergency", that's not what the numbers say. I guess we will just have to see what the courts say.

You also don't understand national emergency powers. It has been a power declared to the president since the 70s.
It's always been available, nothing has changed. So the argument that this sets some new precedent is false.
Do you think all presidents have just been taking the moral background and not using It?

No, it's because you can't just use the National Emergency powers on no basis.
Contrary to what you say, Nancy Pelosi's gun violence likely wouldn't happen due to the 2nd Amendment.

The immigration issues are obviously an issue that should be fixed.

Quote (GLYC123 @ 17 Feb 2019 19:20)

We've already discussed the process of having a funding bill passed.
"No emergency", that's not what the numbers say. I guess we will just have to see what the courts say.

You also don't understand national emergency powers. It has been a power declared to the president since the 70s.
It's always been available, nothing has changed. So the argument that this sets some new precedent is false.
Do you think all presidents have just been taking the moral highground and not using It?

No, it's because you can't just use the National Emergency powers on no basis.
Contrary to what you have said, Nancy Pelosi's gun violence national emergency likely wouldn't happen due to the 2nd Amendment.

The immigration issues are obviously an issue that should be fixed.

Quote (GLYC123 @ 17 Feb 2019 19:00)

Because it's an ongoing issue. The numbers are there.