here some data i just did.
Maybe different classes affect crit chances


Test1 Barb (swords) - 159str - 41dex - 200stats - 13cs

--> ratio 79.5/20.5 ~16% crit chance

Test2 Barb (swords) - 147str - 53dex - 200stats - 13cs

--> ratio 73.5/26.5 ~19% crit chance

Test1 Rouge (swords) - 117str - 83dex - 200stats - 13cs

--> ratio 58.5/41.5 ~29% crit chance
Test2 Rouge (swords) - 124str - 76dex - 200stats - 13cs

--> ratio 62/38 ~24% crit chance

Test1 Warlock (winds) - 144int - 144stats - 0cs

--> ~36% crit chance


Gear used:



This post was edited by Meridius on Jan 31 2019 10:26am

I like the warlock w/ winds data... I wonder if there is a difference in crit rate between the elements or not... Im sorta guessing not. Ive never tested it but 36% crit rate casting sounds about right Ill do some testing with fires if I ever pass...

This is really crazy... based on your and my limited testing, it seems apparent to me that a healthy amount of dex on swords is doing a lot to modify crit rate, even compared to a relatively huge amount of crit strike rating... seems also to me so far that strength is not a major factor for sword crit, but it may be because that value is already “high enough” for all of our testing. Lumping them together a bit and ignoring strength values, going from 45 and 80 crit in your scenario, we’re seeing about 10% crit rate added with swords at 13 crit strike. Any chance you can show us what this looks like without any crit strike? If it’s actually similar it would be cool to know that 3-4 dex could really increase the crit rate by 1% for swords! Even if it is only at these dex (and maybe str) values.

Nice data, it is all about stats not class Can you reproduce this with exacts stats for each class?
example: Barb and Rogue = 124 Strength / 76 Dexterity

Guessing the ratios need work.

You can see my melee gear on my toons

I really love critstrike

Crit Test
Constant conditions->
Guardian
Explore
Retribution / Salvation
0 crit strike
13% armor pierce
1% powershot

Lvl 62.84 - 63.31 Lvl 50 Long Sword Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 1/100 Crit rate: 1%
Lvl 63.31 - 63.70 Lvl 50 Long Sword Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 3/100 Crit rate: 3%
Lvl 63.70 - 64.17 Lvl 50 Long Sword Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 2/100 Crit rate: 2%
Lvl 64.17 - 64.61 Lvl 50 Long Sword Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 1/100 Crit rate: 1%
Lvl 64.61 - 65.08 Lvl 50 Long Sword Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 3/100 Crit rate: 3%
Lvl 65.08 - 65.48 Lvl 50 Long Sword Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 1/100 Crit rate: 1%
Lvl 65.48 - 65.51 Lvl 50 Long Sword Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 4/100 Crit rate: 4% (Welling)
Lvl 65.51 - 65.65 Lvl 50 Long Sword Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 0/100 Crit rate: 0% (Welling ended @ 91 actions)
Lvl 65.65 - 66.00 Lvl 50 Long Sword Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 2/100 Crit rate: 2%

Lvl 66.00 - 66.47 Lvl 50 Long Sword Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 3/100 Crit rate: 3%
Lvl 66.47 - 66.84 Lvl 50 Long Sword Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 0/100 Crit rate: 0%
Lvl 66.84 - 67.27 Lvl 50 Long Sword Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 0/100 Crit rate: 0%
Lvl 67.27 - 67.70 Lvl 50 Long Sword Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 3/100 Crit rate: 3%
Lvl 67.70 - 68.70 Lvl 50 Long Sword Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 6/100 Crit rate: 6%
Lvl 68.70 - 68.44 Lvl 50 Long Sword Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 5/100 Crit rate: 5%

How much relevant information will help with your calculations? What are the conditions (listed) that you want to compare the data with?

Reason: Soften the Sneaky Shell can give you as much data as you require for Critical Hit chance. Even if you hit for 0, a Critical Hit will still appear in Red text.

Based on above, you could most likely attack 5000 times without killing sneaky, you will only be using the same Stats to calculate weapon ratio, you can also change gear for Critical Strike mod using the same base stats, and you can also save up stat points and compare the difference in ratio and/or CS from gear.

For an example, I could use Guardian, with the basic 30 str / 10 dex = 75 / 25 ratio with longsword. have a base 100 vita / 100 int and save points. Depending on level, I can use 12 CS charm to compare any difference, of course I would be using 57 int armor just for healing purposes. During two(2) runs, I could compare increasing Strength from the saved points and then next run only increase dexterity and compare.

Thing is, I need a platform stating something like 2000 attacks for each scenario, or 5000 or 1000 and so forth.

Just use 100 attacks each time
You can calc the avg then

Crit Test
Constant conditions->
Guardian
50 Longsword
Explore
Retribution / Salvation
0 crit strike
13% armor pierce
1% powershot

Lvl 62.84 - 63.31 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 1/100 Crit rate: 1%
Lvl 63.31 - 63.70 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 3/100 Crit rate: 3%
Lvl 63.70 - 64.17 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 2/100 Crit rate: 2%
Lvl 64.17 - 64.61 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 1/100 Crit rate: 1%
Lvl 64.61 - 65.08 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 3/100 Crit rate: 3%
Lvl 65.08 - 65.48 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 1/100 Crit rate: 1%
Lvl 65.48 - 65.51 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 4/100 Crit rate: 4% (Welling)
Lvl 65.51 - 65.65 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 0/100 Crit rate: 0% (Welling ended @ 91 actions)
Lvl 65.65 - 66.00 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 2/100 Crit rate: 2%

Lvl 66.00 - 66.47 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 3/100 Crit rate: 3%
Lvl 66.47 - 66.84 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 0/100 Crit rate: 0%
Lvl 66.84 - 67.27 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 0/100 Crit rate: 0%
Lvl 67.27 - 67.70 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 3/100 Crit rate: 3%
Lvl 67.70 - 68.44 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 6/100 Crit rate: 6%
Lvl 68.44 - 68.70 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 5/100 Crit rate: 5%

Lvl 69.00 - 69.35 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 2/100 Crit rate: 2%
Lvl 69.35 - 69.76 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 1/100 Crit rate: 1%
Lvl 69.76 - 70.15 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 3/100 Crit rate: 3%
Lvl 70.15 - 70.59 Str 63 Dex 13 Crits/Hits: 0/100 Crit rate: 0%

Lost track on last section of level.
Kept all info on one list... looks like an average of 1% / Now to test 75/25 ratio, might take time with only 30/10 stats.

Lagg Axe Crit Test
Constant conditions->
Paladin
Explore
No abilities
0 crit strike
0% armor pierce
0% powershot

Lvl 61 - 61
Str 70
Dex 133
Total stats: 203
Lvl 55 Axe
Crits/Hits: 20/100
Crit rate: 20%

Lvl 61 - 62
Str 133
Dex 70
Total stats: 203
Lvl 55 Axe
Crits/Hits: 29/100
Crit rate: 29%

Lvl 62 - 62
Str 133
Dex 70
Total stats: 203
Lvl 55 Axe
Crits/Hits: 17/100
Crit rate: 17%

Lvl 63 - 63
Str 70
Dex 133
Total stats: 203
Lvl 55 Axe
Crits/Hits: 13/100
Crit rate: 13%

Lvl 63 - 64
Str 70
Dex 133
Total stats: 203
Lvl 55 Axe
Crits/Hits: 23/100
Crit rate: 23%

Lvl 64 - 64
Str 133
Dex 70
Total stats: 203
Lvl 55 Axe
Crits/Hits: 11/100
Crit rate: 11%

Lvl 64 - 65
Str 70
Dex 133
Total stats: 203
Lvl 55 Axe
Crits/Hits: 17/100
Crit rate: 17%

Lvl 65 - 65
Str 133
Dex 70
Total stats: 203
Lvl 55 Axe
Crits/Hits: 14/100
Crit rate: 14%

Trying to see if we're right in thinking that crit rate is not different for high str or high dex, but rather that it's based on total stats... well I didn't test anything other than 203 total stats, but these results are all over the place... I think I'm gonna need more trials

Seems like no so far though anyway. Here are the averages lol!

18.25 +/- 4.3 (SD) for dex high

17.75 +/- 7.9 (SD) for str high

For so much variation, those averages look just around what's expected lol


This post was edited by BWConformity on Feb 2 2019 02:11am