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Dec 11 2018 11:25am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 11 2018 03:25pm)
In France China is tried to corrupt thousands of people, it's insane.

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http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2018/10/22/01016-20181022ARTFIG00246-les-revelations-du-figaro-sur-le-programme-d-espionnage-chinois-qui-vise-la-france.php?redirect_premium
a few thousand executives and employees of the civil service have been "approached" by China via professional social networks.

According to our information, the officers of the Internal Security Directorate (DGIS) and their counterparts in the field of external security (DGSE) have established after long months of work that a few thousand managers and employees of the public service, employees of strategic companies and circles of influence have been "approached" by China via professional social networks, in particular LinkedIn. And this, thanks to digital avatars. While many harpoon "sources" have subdued the deception, intelligence services have established that "several hundred targets have entered a fairly successful compromise process."

Highly effective, following a rigorous methodology, this massive looting of sensitive data at the very heart of the state and the jewels of our economic heritage is attributed, by the services, to the titanic Ministry of State Security (MSE), principal Civilian intelligence service of the People's Republic, which houses in its midst nearly 200,000 agents.

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They did the same with US and probably all advanced countries.

China must be neutralized or isolated as soon as possible, peace is not possible.


Hmm yes, nuke em for Phishing for corruptible French officials.. Accuse the phisher or the sellout? Might be a good question.. It's a rather mild form of low tech espionage.. Wish it was only going on, on this level to be honest.
What is possible when China uses its influence to create the next Samsung smart tv, Intel desktops having a back door and an NSA already hacking Merkerls phone, combined with an upcoming internet of things and voice recognition software to log conversations, will be a different story.

For now this all seems like the pot accusing the kettle, and we only have evidence for the pot using foul play.

Imo that's also the reason why they turn it on the Iran sanction.. I'd prefer Trudeau to fine the US for violating international trade agreements -> Iran deal.

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Dec 11 2018 01:53pm
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Let the cellphone lady go home FFS.



She was detained because the US wants her.

These Canadians that stopped her are trying to help the US apparently

Hello?

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Dec 11 2018 02:20pm
Quote (Knoppie @ 11 Dec 2018 18:25)
Hmm yes, nuke em for Phishing for corruptible French officials.. Accuse the phisher or the sellout? Might be a good question.. It's a rather mild form of low tech espionage.. Wish it was only going on, on this level to be honest.
What is possible when China uses its influence to create the next Samsung smart tv, Intel desktops having a back door and an NSA already hacking Merkerls phone, combined with an upcoming internet of things and voice recognition software to log conversations, will be a different story.

For now this all seems like the pot accusing the kettle, and we only have evidence for the pot using foul play.

Imo that's also the reason why they turn it on the Iran sanction.. I'd prefer Trudeau to fine the US for violating international trade agreements -> Iran deal.


Maybe you aren't realizing it but this not between two persons of the same country but two different countries and cultures... This is spying for domination, and eventually worse. We are not in GrandMa Kitchen.
They put different ethnic groups in camps, you aware of this ? ^_^
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Dec 12 2018 03:01am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 11 2018 09:20pm)
Maybe you aren't realizing it but this not between two persons of the same country but two different countries and cultures... This is spying for domination, and eventually worse. We are not in GrandMa Kitchen.
They put different ethnic groups in camps, you aware of this ? ^_^


My first post in the topic was an article about what spying for dominance looked like in the past 50 years.

The Camps are a different story, in need of political pressure. But I don't think apprehending the cellphone lady is aimed at those.
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Dec 12 2018 03:18am
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My first post in the topic was an article about what spying for dominance looked like in the past 50 years.

The Camps are a different story, in need of political pressure. But I don't think apprehending the cellphone lady is aimed at those.


lady is just a symptom of the tension and camps are a reality if you are not following the party.
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 12 2018 10:18am)
lady is just a symptom of the tension and camps are a reality if you are not following the party.


Okey, so Canada is kidnapping family members to extort political leadership in China, on issues Meng has nothing to do with.

You're streching this a bit too far m8.

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Dec 12 2018 03:38am
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Okey, so Canada is kidnapping family members to extort political leadership in China?
You're streching this a bit too far m8.


Canada is not "kidnapping" and there's nothing to extort, it's just political pressure, a sign to show west is worrying about china agressive spying policy.
You got shit on the eyes if you don't see what's going on. :rofl:
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Dec 12 2018 03:40am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 12 2018 10:38am)
Canada is not "kidnapping" and there's nothing to extort, it's just political pressure, a sign to show west is worrying about china agressive spying policy.
You got shit on the eyes if you don't see what's going on. :rofl:


Nah, I'm just comparing it to NSA spying, and deem it pathetic, for what it is atm.
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Dec 12 2018 06:30pm
Quote (Knoppie @ Dec 12 2018 02:40am)
Nah, I'm just comparing it to NSA spying, and deem it pathetic, for what it is atm.


NSA doesn't spy for profit, the Chinese do. I did a paper on this recently, the U.S. alone looses between 200-600 billion in intellectual property per year, mainly to China.
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Dec 12 2018 06:45pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 12 2018 04:38am)
Canada is not "kidnapping" and there's nothing to extort, it's just political pressure, a sign to show west is worrying about china agressive spying policy.
You got shit on the eyes if you don't see what's going on. :rofl:


Arrest is state sponsored kidnapping, period.
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