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Dec 12 2018 06:53pm
Quote (Knoppie @ Dec 12 2018 04:40am)
Nah, I'm just comparing it to NSA spying, and deem it pathetic, for what it is atm.


Meng has probably broken American law.

The United States asserts the right to punish those who break American laws. China does not believe that it should be subject to American law.

That's all that's at play here.
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Dec 12 2018 07:02pm
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Meng has probably broken American law.

The United States asserts the right to punish those who break American laws. China does not believe that it should be subject to American law.

That's all that's at play here.


America doesn't punish its own CEOs though.
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Dec 12 2018 07:24pm
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America doesn't punish its own CEOs though.


Yeah they do. Sometimes they don't even get a million dollar payout..
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Dec 12 2018 09:19pm
i really hope our (canadian) gov't does not roll over on this especially seeing as how they have detained 2 of our diplomats for no reason.time the u.s and canada stand together against china and let them know we wont stand for this bs.been proven in the past that china wont extradite one of its own as its their law so what choice does anyone have if we want justice against them.
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Dec 12 2018 11:42pm
Quote (Skinned @ 13 Dec 2018 01:45)
Arrest is state sponsored kidnapping, period.


China quickly arrested a canadian diplomat as an "answer".

Do you know many case regarding regular citizen where the way to resolve a kidnapping is to proceed another ?

You can't compare position of states vs position of citizen ... China is just playing the US game ? NP lets say that... then it does it better and way harder, while not being a west culture at all. They are our enemies, period.

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Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 13 2018 01:30am)
NSA doesn't spy for profit, the Chinese do. I did a paper on this recently, the U.S. alone looses between 200-600 billion in intellectual property per year, mainly to China.


Interesting, since you've done the paper: How much of that was obtained on a commercial and voluntary basis for entering the market? And how much was "theft" ?

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 13 2018 06:42am)
China quickly arrested a canadian diplomat as an "answer".

Do you know many case regarding regular citizen where the way to resolve a kidnapping is to proceed another ?

You can't compare position of states vs position of citizen ... China is just playing the US game ? NP lets say that... then it does it better and way harder, while not being a west culture at all. They are our enemies, period.


Hah! Foreign culture -> Cannot live in peace together -> Culture of peace will strike again.

wtf sauce ?
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Dec 13 2018 05:50am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 13 2018 12:42am)
China quickly arrested a canadian diplomat as an "answer".

Do you know many case regarding regular citizen where the way to resolve a kidnapping is to proceed another ?

You can't compare position of states vs position of citizen ... China is just playing the US game ? NP lets say that... then it does it better and way harder, while not being a west culture at all. They are our enemies, period.


They kidnapped the owner of the company's daughter. I know the idea of insulting honor is a foreign concept to you and most folks here but is a very serious matter indeed within the cultural context.

This will turn into a much bigger pissing contest than arresting some C Level executive. Whoever is picking this fight better know that is a much bigger fight than just arresting an executive, it is arresting the daughter of a Chinese royal family.

It'll be like arresting Donald Trump's daughter versus arresting any of Donald Trump's other c-level executives. The daughter piece is the bigger piece.

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Dec 13 2018 06:36am
Quote (Knoppie @ 13 Dec 2018 12:17)
Interesting, since you've done the paper: How much of that was obtained on a commercial and voluntary basis for entering the market? And how much was "theft" ?



Hah! Foreign culture -> Cannot live in peace together -> Culture of peace will strike again.

wtf sauce ?



Oh look like i was wrong, they were already at 2 canadians arrested this morning
Ofc you can write some kind of deprecated hippy slogan while chineses are arresting and putting in camps christians or muslims without any serious reason.
good job !


Quote (Skinned @ 13 Dec 2018 12:50)
They kidnapped the owner of the company's daughter. I know the idea of insulting honor is a foreign concept to you and most folks here but is a very serious matter indeed within the cultural context.

This will turn into a much bigger pissing contest than arresting some C Level executive. Whoever is picking this fight better know that is a much bigger fight than just arresting an executive, it is arresting the daughter of a Chinese royal family.

It'll be like arresting Donald Trump's daughter versus arresting any of Donald Trump's other c-level executives. The daughter piece is the bigger piece.


Your adoration for the regime which purged dozens of millions of lives seems to be limitless, your cult for this "red princess" (wonderful equality of rights we have here) is so disturbing im having serious doubts regarding your objectivity.
Maybe you wanted she get free of it even if, on the paper, she got detained for a clear reason; lying to banks.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Dec 13 2018 06:37am
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Dec 13 2018 06:55am
Quote (Skinned @ Dec 13 2018 06:50am)
They kidnapped the owner of the company's daughter. I know the idea of insulting honor is a foreign concept to you and most folks here but is a very serious matter indeed within the cultural context.

This will turn into a much bigger pissing contest than arresting some C Level executive. Whoever is picking this fight better know that is a much bigger fight than just arresting an executive, it is arresting the daughter of a Chinese royal family.

It'll be like arresting Donald Trump's daughter versus arresting any of Donald Trump's other c-level executives. The daughter piece is the bigger piece.


It's obviously not tenable to allow the Chinese to flout Western law and then hide behind state sovereignty.

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Dec 13 2018 07:01am
Quote (bogie160 @ Dec 13 2018 07:55am)
It's obviously not tenable to allow the Chinese to flout Western law and then hide behind state sovereignty.


Is this about Western Law or is this about her interactions with Iran?
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