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Aug 16 2018 07:38am
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:rofl:

Just because he did okay vs new England’s dog shit secondary does not make him a good qb. He also missed every throw when it mattered. And the coaching staff didn’t even trust him to throw on 1st or 2nd down.

Bortles even cost or nearly cost Jacksonville multiple games this season. Let’s not even get into the last 3 years before this one. He was absolutely abysmal in those.


Bortles is not in the top 20 QBs in the league. He’s a game manager who turns the ball over too much to be a game manager and has good durability and mobility, that’s it. He would be an above average backup qb but he is nowhere near starting caliber. Not even close.


I think he's right around the #16-20 range. New England's "Dog shit" secondary was a top 5 defense in points allowed FYI. Our red zone defense was solid last year.
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Oh also in case you were interested...bortles is back to his miserable ways and is being far outperformed by Cody Kessler in camp. And no I don’t think Kessler is an improvement but rest assured if the jags start to struggle and Bortles is turning the ball over like only he knows how, they’re gonna pull him in favor of little Cody


source?
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Aug 16 2018 09:21am
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I think he's right around the #16-20 range. New England's "Dog shit" secondary was a top 5 defense in points allowed FYI. Our red zone defense was solid last year.

source?


U really need a source
It's a miracle bortlels is a starting qb at all
He's always been dogshit
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Aug 16 2018 09:31am
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Aug 16 2018 09:39am
He knows better than to say anything about big dick nick
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Aug 16 2018 09:43am
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U really need a source
It's a miracle bortlels is a starting qb at all
He's always been dogshit


Lol
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Aug 16 2018 09:54am
Quote (SlakeMoth @ Aug 16 2018 10:21am)
U really need a source
It's a miracle bortlels is a starting qb at all
He's always been dogshit


This
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Aug 16 2018 10:01am
Bortles statistically is a mixed bag, in some categories he's top 15, other categories bottom 10. So yeah i think it's fair to call him slightly below average.
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Aug 16 2018 10:27am
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He knows better than to say anything about big dick nick


"He's good enough to win a SB I guess"

Yeah bruh, something you'll never see so keep that mouth shut and appreciate BIG DICK NICK in true form.
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Aug 16 2018 12:00pm
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Yeah he might go off for 220 yards and a td


He'll go off for being 22nd on the all-time winningest QB list, there's a ton of talent that hasn't performed as well as Flacco does under pressure.

Not to mention he's #10 in winning percentage in the Playoffs, where the wins really matter. But let's just talk stats, since throwing 500 yards and 4tds always wins you games (let's ask Big Ben about that).

Wins matter, not stats.
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Aug 16 2018 12:28pm
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He'll go off for being 22nd on the all-time winningest QB list, there's a ton of talent that hasn't performed as well as Flacco does under pressure.

Not to mention he's #10 in winning percentage in the Playoffs, where the wins really matter. But let's just talk stats, since throwing 500 yards and 4tds always wins you games (let's ask Big Ben about that).

Wins matter, not stats.

Sure, wins matter, but wins are a team stat.
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