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Jan 30 2018 01:01pm
I'm trying to remember, but bow zons don't use AR because it has no effect on arrows right?
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Jan 30 2018 01:06pm
Bowzons mainly use GA- Guided arrow which doesn't use AR to hit targets.
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Jan 30 2018 01:09pm
guided arrow ignores AR/Defense, multi does not.
AR still matters for multi, but faith+penetrate gives very high attack rating
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Jan 30 2018 01:45pm
Wth ^^ Are we talking pvp or pvm?

If you don't have Ignore Target Defense on your bow, you must have high AR to be able to perform well in Hell mode. At least 8000+. This is more easily achievable if you keep a Demon Limb in your stash, it has level 23 Enchant charges, which boosts AR by a great amount. But you would still need some AR charms to get where you want to be. This is why i consider Eaglehorn + Strafe an equal or better bow than Windforce + Multishot, since every single arrow will hit your target and Pierce, and hit every monster behind.

Guided Arrow is the best choice against Bosses, since ITD have no effect on bosses.
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Jan 30 2018 01:53pm
see post#3

Quote (Taurean @ Jan 30 2018 08:45pm)
Wth ^^ Are we talking pvp or pvm?

If you don't have Ignore Target Defense on your bow, you must have high AR to be able to perform well in Hell mode. At least 8000+. This is more easily achievable if you keep a Demon Limb in your stash, it has level 23 Enchant charges, which boosts AR by a great amount. But you would still need some AR charms to get where you want to be. This is why i consider Eaglehorn + Strafe an equal or better bow than Windforce + Multishot, since every single arrow will hit your target and Pierce, and hit every monster behind.

Guided Arrow is the best choice against Bosses, since ITD have no effect on bosses.

this is retarded because this was written by taurean
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Jan 30 2018 02:05pm
Quote (lilith0 @ Jan 30 2018 07:53pm)
see post#3


this is retarded because this was written by taurean


I haven't been here long enough to know who gives good information and who doesn't, but this does seem a little harsh. Having not done a bowazon, I don't know how reliable this info is or isn't.
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Jan 30 2018 02:21pm
Quote (Weterr123 @ 30 Jan 2018 21:05)
I haven't been here long enough to know who gives good information and who doesn't, but this does seem a little harsh. Having not done a bowazon, I don't know how reliable this info is or isn't.


I just want to tell you one thing ^^ There are a lot of psychopaths in here. I write out of years of experience with bowzon only gameplay. People judge me because of complete bullshit. You take what you want.
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Jan 30 2018 02:29pm
Quote (Weterr123 @ Jan 30 2018 02:05pm)
I haven't been here long enough to know who gives good information and who doesn't, but this does seem a little harsh. Having not done a bowazon, I don't know how reliable this info is or isn't.


A faith bowazon has about +525% AR built into the build and ignores target defense on trash mobs, and as said, guided arrow bypasses attack/defense roll entirely.
AR is generally a non-issue based on that alone, you can hit 20k AR without charms, 30k with them, and demon limb is just silly, and eaglehorn is retarded.
Take for example you're fighting 2000 defense level 85 monsters when you're level 90 with 20k AR and ignores target defense. That gives you 95% chance to hit against trash mobs, 93% chance to hit against bosses (its capped at 95%, but guided arrow bypasses this check and thus has 100%). A demon limb might take you up to 95% chance against bosses, but for what purpose? If you're wearing damage/ar charms, you can hit 30k ar anyway. Even windforce builds don't have AR problems because they get +% ar from penetrate and allied merc, high AR from dexterity and charms, and monsters have low defense.

same deal in pvp, most casters have around 2000 defense, and if you're spamming multi against smiters/bvbs something is very wrong anyway.
and also multi is significantly better than strafe in PvM, because strafe has a limitation of only being able to hit monsters every 5 frames even though it fires every 2 frames (4 frame nextdelay), so besides being awkward to hit at 5 fpa at all (a 2 fpa strafe will hit at 6 fpa), just spamming multi spreads more arrows and dishes out more damage, even in fairly narrow corridors. And against bosses, a 100% damage guided arrow at 7 fpa deals more than a 75% damage strafe at 5-6 fpa
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Jan 30 2018 02:37pm
Quote (Weterr123 @ Jan 30 2018 09:05pm)
I haven't been here long enough to know who gives good information and who doesn't

yes of course
this is why I vouched for the right info and warned you about taurean's disability.
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Jan 30 2018 02:40pm
Quote (lilith0 @ Jan 30 2018 08:37pm)
yes of course
this is why I vouched for the right info and warned you about taurean's disability.


so much hate from france
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