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Jan 19 2018 06:34am
Thoughts on this? Dems don't seem to want the American people to see this..
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Jan 19 2018 06:37am
+1 for the Freedom of information :)
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Jan 19 2018 06:39am
Yes
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Jan 19 2018 08:41am
Funny that congress just approved extending FISA. The president ought to veto it
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Jan 19 2018 08:47am
Quote (TCassa89 @ 19 Jan 2018 15:41)
Funny that congress just approved extending FISA. The president ought to veto it


he doesn't know what his position is until his handlers tell him though...
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Jan 19 2018 08:52am
Quote (TCassa89 @ Jan 19 2018 08:41am)
Funny that congress just approved extending FISA. The president ought to veto it


Its not a coincidence, the republicans are very supportive of the unconstitutional spying programs, even when its been abused against them. Trump is no civil libertarian crusader. So Nunes intentionally kept quiet any complaints against the FISA process until after it was reapproved, so that their memogate strategy wouldn't create political pressure to scuttle the FISA reapproval. This is one of the quirks of establishment authoritarianism run amok, big brother could have his home raided by secret police one day and then the next day rationalize the continued orwellian state as an overall pragmatic good.

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Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 19 2018 08:52am)
Its not a coincidence, the republicans are very supportive of the unconstitutional spying programs, even when its been abused against them. Trump is no civil libertarian crusader. So Nunes intentionally kept quiet any complaints against the FISA process until after it was reapproved, so that their memogate strategy wouldn't create political pressure to scuttle the FISA reapproval. This is one of the quirks of establishment authoritarianism run amok, big brother could have his home raided by secret police one day and then the next day rationalize the continued orwellian state as an overall pragmatic good.


Judging on the verbal sparing Rand Paul and Chris Chistie did in debate #1 on that issue I disagree. I think the Paul/Cruz wing of the GOP are staunchly against it, and the more authoritarian east coast GOP members are very in support of it. I think it could be argued that the libertarian wing of the GOP has almost no power and very little influence on the GOP leadership compared to the more authoritarian wing however. My point is that the GOP politicians and base seems deeply split on the issue, but leadership may be locked in on it.
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Jan 19 2018 09:02am
>suppress info when it could be bad for you (fusion gps)
>call for access to info when it could be good for you (fisa)

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Jan 19 2018 09:06am
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he doesn't know what his position is until his handlers tell him though...



“Trumps to blame for everything while also being a puppet to the state”

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