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Dec 10 2017 03:00pm
Which is generally better for pvp for a ghost?
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Dec 10 2017 03:11pm
in general cruel is better but against barbs n paladins fools is usually better
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Dec 10 2017 03:33pm
If you just gonna get 1 claw, then Go for fools.
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Dec 10 2017 05:19pm
cruel > fool

cloak of shadows and cruel is virtually the same attack rating as fools but with better damage average.

plus physical trap skills benefit well from raw base claw damage.

take blade shield for instance. it can practically double your overall physical damage output, because of its additional hit check while you ww.

not only that but blade shield works with deadly strike and claw mastery critical bonus, both of which have a chance to double the damage it deals on top of your ww.
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Dec 10 2017 05:21pm
cruel unless you're a fan of bvb
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Dec 10 2017 05:27pm
Quote (TODDZI11A @ Dec 10 2017 11:19pm)
cruel > fool

cloak of shadows and cruel is virtually the same attack rating as fools but with better damage average.

plus physical trap skills benefit well from raw base claw damage.

take blade shield for instance. it can practically double your overall physical damage output, because of its additional hit check while you ww.

not only that but blade shield works with deadly strike and claw mastery critical bonus, both of which have a chance to double the damage it deals on top of your ww.


Dmg dont mather If you dont hit... you wanna make a 102/48 eq to own all with. Blade shield is 1/4th of dmg or smt.

Make ur calculation again. Calculate 4 hits with fools vs 2 hits with cruel, and dont forget the ow/ds/crushingblow chance you just mentioned, and the psn dmg. Hell, calculate 2 hits blade vs 1 hit blade as add as well.
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Quote (gel87 @ Dec 10 2017 05:27pm)
Dmg dont mather If you dont hit... you wanna make a 102/48 eq to own all with. Blade shield is 1/4th of dmg or smt.

Make ur calculation again. Calculate 4 hits with fools vs 2 hits with cruel, and dont forget the ow/ds/crushingblow chance you just mentioned, and the psn dmg. Hell, calculate 2 hits blade vs 1 hit blade as add as well.


u can hit just as much with a cruel as you would a fool with the right set up bro. cloak, hsarus boot/belt works great.
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Dec 10 2017 06:20pm
Quote (gel87 @ Dec 10 2017 06:27pm)
Dmg dont mather If you dont hit... you wanna make a 102/48 eq to own all with. Blade shield is 1/4th of dmg or smt.

Make ur calculation again. Calculate 4 hits with fools vs 2 hits with cruel, and dont forget the ow/ds/crushingblow chance you just mentioned, and the psn dmg. Hell, calculate 2 hits blade vs 1 hit blade as add as well.


With the retarded way ww does hitchecks it makes little difference
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Quote (TODDZI11A @ Dec 10 2017 11:44pm)
u can hit just as much with a cruel as you would a fool with the right set up bro. cloak, hsarus boot/belt works great.


Losing the possibilities for 102fcr and loosing 15%ds, 15% crush, 10% ow.... Rather harsh.... Cloak of shadow works even better on a fool's claw.

Quote (SuperButt420 @ Dec 11 2017 12:20am)
With the retarded way ww does hitchecks it makes little difference


Thats why you should use fast fool's and slow chaos. Such that fool's become main hand after wsm.
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Dec 11 2017 12:42am
you need both
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