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Dec 11 2017 03:04pm
Quote (gel87 @ Dec 11 2017 12:40am)
Losing the possibilities for 102fcr and loosing 15%ds, 15% crush, 10% ow.... Rather harsh.... Cloak of shadow works even better on a fool's claw.



Thats why you should use fast fool's and slow chaos. Such that fool's become main hand after wsm.



that fegs sin is prolly so weak I could blow on it for the pk


cos doesn't work better with a fools claw cuz attack rating has diminishing returns.

with a fools you are leaving damage on the table which is one of the only things in this game with virtually no diminishing returns.

same with fcr. u can catch 200fcr sorts with dragon flight easily.

don't even need fcr to chase em cuz of dragon flight lol so fcr is useless unless u wanna spam mind blast and tele around like a helpless junkie.

and even when u choose to spam mind blast, damage reduced mod stunts its damage easily.
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Dec 11 2017 03:44pm
Quote (gel87 @ Dec 11 2017 01:40am)
Losing the possibilities for 102fcr and loosing 15%ds, 15% crush, 10% ow.... Rather harsh.... Cloak of shadow works even better on a fool's claw.



Thats why you should use fast fool's and slow chaos. Such that fool's become main hand after wsm.


And sometimes it will use the chaos ar for the fool claw anyway...
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Dec 11 2017 04:08pm
a fools claw itself has diminishing returns. As long as you're forced to use chaos in one of your hands to cast whirlwind at all, a fools will always have the problem where whirlwind hitchecks get stuck on your fools-side AR and keep repeating that until it rolls a hit, so the benefit of getting AR that only applies to one claw is bad compared to global modifiers like angelics, enchant, cloak of shadows, etc. If you had a 5% chance to hit with chaos and 95% chance with fools, then you have a 9.5% chance to hit overall.

But putting that to more realistic scenarios, say you have 10k ar chaos, 11k cruel, 20k ar fools, against a 15k defense opponent, giving you 40% / 42.3% / 57.1% chance to hit respectively
Then chaos + cruel has an average 41.1% chance to hit, and chaos + fools has an average 46.8% chance to hit
Is landing 13.8% more marginal attacks going to be worth the difference in damage on a cruel?
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Goomshill is on the money. And incase that didn't convince you take a gander at gel87's trash build to put the icing on the cake. All you'll see is damage left on the table with a crappy fools, prebuffs (rofl), a bunch of unnecessary fcr to do evasive things like tele and mind blast, and a plethora of venom damage up against plr% and resist.

Behold:

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This is my ghost:
Valk 08 Lo unperm
Arach
Eod
40/fools/270/eth/rep/adds/1usefull skill feral Ber/zod
Chaos usefull skills suawaya
2 * fcr/ar/str/dex/mana maby 1 got life, cant remember
2/20/20dex/20@ ammu
Gores
Trangs
Spirit
Cta

Stash 6fade/6venom/10/10 claws * 2
3/30/10/10 helm
2 sojs
Bramble 50
Eth shadows 2/2x
3/30 ammu
Demon limb

20/20/25 torch
20/20 annie
5* 20/5
5*3/20/20

Not that exspensive but works wonders.
Stat extra dex for ar/dmg/def. Aim for ar with this setup and you got an all arounder.
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Dec 12 2017 02:20pm
Quote (TODDZI11A @ Dec 12 2017 11:05am)
Goomshill is on the money. And incase that didn't convince you take a gander at gel87's trash build to put the icing on the cake. All you'll see is damage left on the table with a crappy fools, prebuffs (rofl), a bunch of unnecessary fcr to do evasive things like tele and mind blast, and a plethora of venom damage up against plr% and resist.

Behold:



Ge is probably talking about pvp , where 102fc is a must.
You probably did not duel that much, or at least on a very limited level, given the fact that you rely on DF vs sorcs.

But you are strong in S&G ;)

This post was edited by Flocke123 on Dec 12 2017 02:23pm
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Dec 12 2017 02:31pm
todd is a terrible ghost though anyways
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Dec 12 2017 05:42pm
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Ge is probably talking about pvp , where 102fc is a must.
You probably did not duel that much, or at least on a very limited level, given the fact that you rely on DF vs sorcs.

But you are strong in S&G ;)


102 fcr is not a must and why wouldn't u df vs sorcs? who needs to chase when u have an aa'd tele


Quote (Haseo @ Dec 12 2017 02:31pm)
todd is a terrible ghost though anyways


when you are ready for an honest gm duel you lmk.. hdin trash
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Dec 12 2017 05:43pm
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102 fcr is not a must and why wouldn't u df vs sorcs? who needs to chase when u have an aa'd tele




when you are ready for an honest gm duel you lmk.. hdin trash


come to priv realm and i will oblige...otherwise my comment still stands

ps: you scamma not me

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come to priv realm and i will oblige...otherwise my comment still stands

ps: you scamma not me


sure I'll be in in two hours hope you're around at work atm

I have gg ghost, you're a trash paladin, not me.
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Dec 12 2017 05:51pm
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sure I'll be in in two hours hope you're around at work atm

I have gg ghost, you're a trash paladin, not me.


i dont have to use a paladin to slay you m8 but i hope by priv realm u know i mean dee two pee kay

/also using a ghost is no better, its a shit meme char

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