Quote (Ghot @ 21 Oct 2017 15:26)

I'd say the US has had a lot less involvement in "other countries" politics than either England or France has had. But that's not my point.

Militant islam has been rearing it's ugly head long before the US was even a country. I feel it's unfair in the extreme to ONLY look as far back in history as seems to be the current fad. Aka, after the US became involved in the middle east.
It seems that ever since WW II the rest of the world has just sat back and LET the US deal with just about everything.

I don't recall the US ever signing on for such a task. I seem to recall a League of Nations, then a UN...etc. But it always seems to come back to the same thing.
When the world decides things need dealing with...everyone seems to turn to the US when things get serious, at the same time they are criticizing the US on any and everything.

From the US standpoint, I feel sure we would rather let the UN handle things. But that doesn't seem to be working out, does it.
The US could easily close it's borders and just let the world burn....so to speak. We CAN defend, feed, and support ourselves rather easily.

I don't see the world helping to pay for our armies....the ones that they call on continually. Yet at the same time the world seems to find it easy to dis the US for it's lack of 100% govt. subsidized healthcare, among other things.

Quote (Scaly @ Oct 21 2017 08:51am)

Why don't I go back farther? Maybe I should. Because the farther back you go the more it's Christianity responsible for horrific acts. Colonisation, crusades, genocide. lmk.

or we can stick to what is currently culturally relevant.

Quote (Ghot @ Oct 21 2017 10:41am)

Only if we leave our borders open and pretend we believe that the EU, the UN etc. are any help what so ever. NONE of this crap in Africa or the Middle East is the fault of the USA. These areas were torn up by other countries, long before we came along.

Like I said, if the world wants the US to be the police force (like our sons and daughters mean nothing to us), or to be the world's refugee dumping ground, then I think they should be helping the US instead of deriding it.


As for the healthcare of the non-us countries... high taxes or govt. subsidized is the same thing. :/



/e I guess what I am saying is the US because of it abilities, and it's peoples seems to want to work to help the world. But no one has ever said that we want to work FOR the world..aka the EU or the UN.

If Europe doesn't like the way we do things...well then I'm quite sure we will be willing to step aside and let them handle things.

Quote (BardOfXiix @ 21 Oct 2017 15:55)

I think you'll discover that Christianity was a convenient excuse more than a cause.

Quote (Skinned @ Oct 21 2017 12:00pm)

You are completely delusional and ignorant of recent history. How can you just not know about Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Bush, and Obama?

We are the most warmongering nation on Earth. We are responsible for Africa? How do you think African Americans got here?
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Quote (murder567 @ 21 Oct 2017 17:56)

I believe the majority have ancestors generations back that were sold as slaves by African tribal leaders to European merchants on the coast of West Africa in the Triangle Trade.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Oct 21 2017 01:02pm)

And this ? You believe it too i guess ?

https://i.imgur.com/PAYf2Xi.jpg

Quote (murder567 @ 21 Oct 2017 18:03)

Weak. I'll give you some time to try again.