Pelosi should just write up a bill that says "give everybody 2k" and send it over, then tweet at Trump to get McConnel in line because he's making you look like a bitch.

You Europeans are so respectable. You know what’s going on well in a lot of other countries in addition to your own

Can someone summarize why France is taking a very adversarial approach in this process - at least it seems so from what I have been reading. They also have much to gain from a successful compromise ?

The French are not reasonable. They want everything. It was their insistence on absolutely crushing reparations, sanctions, and annexations on Germany after WWI that set the stage for the brutally weak German economy that Hitler took advantage of. They attempted something similar after WWII and were told to kindly piss off. Their handling of their colony in Vietnam and inability to police their own shit dragged the US into a situation the US had no business or experience being.

France is pushing for Britain's shirt, jacket, boots, left kidney, and children's souls because they believe that they can either get it, or Britain will fail if they stand apart from the EU. And depending on Biden's intentions as President, they may be correct. If Biden's stance on British trade is comparable to Obama's, he'd cheerfully cut off post-brexit Britain. That'd leave Britain's primary business partners as Russia and China. Given everyone's trying to push the US into hard sanctions if not open warfare against Russia, that'd mean China could absolutely rake Britain over the coals.

It's bad math with a lot of holes in it, but it's par for the course.

Are Brits even European now?

I wouldn't say we're that clued up with the minutiae of what's happening everywhere, but from personal experience we tend to be well-travelled and aware of macro events to a greater extent than Americans (or any other part of the world for that matter).

It is rational that a country that is effectively a continent with a huge population and GDP will have more inward-looking people and news, with less news about events taking place in distant countries with smaller populations. You'll find people in countries with more exceptionalist attitudes (US, UK, Russia and Japan come to mind) have less knowledge about external events. Maybe our populations just care more about Nagorno-Karabakh than you do and the news companies react by giving their consumers the information they care about.

e/ forgot about answering the France bit, will write up something later

This post was edited by dro94 on Dec 23 2020 03:00pm

France is fine, UK is shitting in its pants since 4 years in front of everybody.
They want the money, the butter's money, and the ass of the creamer, it's their nature.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=77347766&f=119&p=563206504

Hopefully B.J is so much in a need to bring good news to his infected people he may give up a bit on fishing negociations.



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This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Dec 23 2020 03:13pm

there is a deal. can't wait to read it.

It's official, told you all it was only a matter of time. My main concern is the restrictions on services, particularly how this affects our ability to remain competitive in finance.

Uk left the biggest free trade zone in the world to negotiate a deal to maintain free trade access for fewer items that they had before. What a resounding success!!!!!!

Dunno about the full issue yet, you have a global synhetisis of the 1500 pages deal ?
An official who wanted to stay anonymous said it was a win for Eu, especially France.