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Jul 24 2017 02:02pm
So does this work or not?
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Jul 24 2017 02:12pm
Quote (Navigatorx @ Jul 24 2017 10:51am)
Ok, I've done some research into drop generation mechanics :)

In general it's a disaster ^^ You gain nothing at all farming NM lvl 39-52 areas.

The mechanics are pretty much what Zeronim0 said:


But it's even worse. You see, because of low area lvl the pool of all unique rings which cannot drop is replaced with rares instead. This means that if BK was about to drop it is converted to some rare crap beacause the area lvl is too low.

Representative example:
- You kill a skeleton lvl 39 in tristram NM,
- Game decides to drop a ring,
- Game decides the quality of the ring is unique,
- Game chooses BK,
- Game drops rare ring because ilvl condition to drop BK hasn't been met.

To sum up. SoJ drop rate has no connection with other unique rings' rates. Congrats to the OP for nice stories about tens of SoJ drops a day. I call bullshit :* Good trolling sire.

e/ Oh, and as for my update. No SoJ found :) Several crappy uniques only.


do you have a source for this? if this is the case it is probably better to run separate games then...
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Jul 24 2017 02:36pm
Quote (Zeronim0 @ 24 Jul 2017 21:53)
...Edited...

The Op method rely on to a fast mass murderer, which isn't that bad since such areas allow a high mf amount :thumbsup:

...Edited....

In fact this method may give good result under certain conditions :hail:
( witch i won't explain since it's bot related & i do hate bot - )

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Jul 24 2017 02:38pm
My guess is that if you're killing enough stuff fast enough it beats Qbug Andy. However, dedicating resources solely to SoJ finding instead of looking for HRs doesn't seem like the most efficient way to profit
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BTW, in response to above poster claiming you can get a 4soc war scepter by taking one from norm cows to Larzuk and that items found in norm are capped at 4 soc with q or cube regardless of ilvl, I'm not replicating that. I've taken War Scepter and Double Axe from norm cows to Larzuk and gotten 5os as chart says I should. Even went so far as to take an ilvl43 Crystal Sword from Throne to him to see if it'll get 6, and it does. I've cubed a low level Double Axe I shopped from Fara and pulled in 4os as well. For reference, I'm doing this on single player 1.13c with Plugy, as I'm not playing realm any longer. I don't believe that there's any difference in the coding on sockets between sp and bnet. If I'm wrong, I'm fine with that, but I'd like a link for reference.

I'm convinced that all the published charts regarding ilvl and sockets are correct, and that the only difficulty related caps on how many sockets appear in an item are how many will spawn, with 3 for norm and 4 for nm. So, I still maintain that if you want a 5os holy shock scepter, norm cows is fine if you take it to Larzuk.

As far as 4os scepters go, one of the thing about runewords is the difficulty in finding a suitable base. The ilvl26-40 possibilities won't apply to most/all exceptional/elite bases. For cube/larz purposes isn't a scepter with a listed cap of 4os at any level. If you were after a 4os war scepter, the best place to find one would be NM cows, since there's a 4os spawn limit in nm. Same goes for trying to get an exceptional eth base for something like Oath.

This post was edited by Khboer on Jul 24 2017 03:20pm
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Jul 24 2017 06:45pm
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Quote (rob2010 @ Jul 24 2017 08:12pm)
do you have a source for this? if this is the case it is probably better to run separate games then...


Google Item Generation Tutorial Diablo Wiki - there is a huge article about drop mechanics
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Jul 26 2017 03:02pm
Testing in sp for ~4hours.
Zero unique rings, many crap rares.
Thats all significant drops.



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