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Jun 23 2017 07:08pm
Quote (TooL89 @ Jun 23 2017 06:55pm)
Baseball is TERRIBLE. The hall of fame is downright sad. All the years Jack Morris was excluded from the Hall because the writers didn't like him because he didn't kiss their ass and spoke his mind about them.


Than you have the whole reason the BCS system ever came to esistance. Michigan beat PSU who was 1 or 2 until they beat them down by like 30 in 1997.

Michigan held number 1 all year in the polls. Destroys everyone. Stifles one of the best offenses in awhile in the Rose Bowl and holds them to a few points. Was one of the best defenses ever and has no slouch of an offense led by Brian Griese.

Well after the bowls were played, Tom Osbourne announces that he is going to retire from is head coaching gig out of completely random that year as a bid for desperation votes when it was clear Michigan had the national title locked up.

Well apparently it worked if you now go back and look at the travesty that occurred in the coach's poll. It swung Nebraska into the front runner in ridiculous fashion.

Now the real gem of it all came from Tennessee and fatass Phil Fulmer. Charles Woodson won the Heisman Trophy earlier that same season over Peyton Manning, who most down south thought was going to win in a landslide.

Well fat boy Phil had Nebraska #1, of course. Now it gets good, he had undefeated Michigan ranked outside the top 10 (toughest schedule, blew teams out, played 3 similar opponents as Nebraska and beat them by dozens more points than the Huskers did..yes I understand transitive property is a terrible measure..juat pointing out all the situations.) Phil was still so bitter over Woodson winning the Heisman he did something that had no excuse for being anything other than blatant cheating and fraudulent voting just to ruin a team of kids chance at a life dream come true.

If I recall correctly, there was quite the pile of southern teams, mainly from the SEC, that voted Michigan in spots ranging from 2 to 6 or 7. Somehow they felt the team they had ranked 1-3 throughout the whole last month or two dropped several points and fell bellow teams who WEREN'T undefeated as Michigan was all year and just got done shutting down one of the most elite offenses in years.

Then Osbourne deciding to retire, created a chain of coaches moving Michigan off the number 1 perch to replace them with Nebraska out of respect for a long time coach. It wasn't nearly as shady as what some conferences did moving Michigan down to 2, but still isnt something that should be used as a determining factor as to who wins something that important.

There were also quite a few Big 12 (Was Big 8 then?) coaches who moved Michigan down into the 4 to 10 range.

Of course media coverage and social media coverage is nothing like today so outside of in the state of the Michigan, it was relatively unknown. Moving an undefeated team who blew out some power house teams below teams with 1 2 or 3 losses the last week or two to pimp another team is so unethical it's not even funny.

This is not even counting the TD Nebraska scored on 4th and goal vs. Mizzou to eventually win in OT and remain undefeated. Intentionally kicked the ball to another teamatte for a TD. So that would have ended it all before it even happened. Osbourne would have coached at least another year though.

TLDR; Voters forced Michigan to split a NCAA Football title with Nebraska and was the reason for the BCS.


fascinating. thanks for this my sports junkie is going to research the shit out of this :)
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Jun 24 2017 07:12am
Quote (Werewulf @ Jun 23 2017 09:08pm)
fascinating. thanks for this my sports junkie is going to research the shit out of this :)


I expected for everyone to bitch at me and complain about that long lost. So was very nice to see the responses :)

Disclaimer: most of this was from top of my mind and this was 97 season and I was born in 89, so numbers and what not could be off in some spots. Also some of the parts that can't really be proven were obviously coming from biased Michigan fans inputs.

Regardless, it should be good read for you and will learn ya how the BCS came about.

Funny thing is Vegas claims Nebraska would be favored by like 7 points if they had played at the end of the year. To me that is very odd, considering Nebraska was a one dimensional option offense with Scott Frost running the show if I remember correctly. Michigan, on the other hand, had a very balanced offense with a very good QB in Brian Griese. The part that surprises me, though, is Michigan's defense was the best in the nation and one of the best ever, anchored by Heisman winning Charles Woodson. I just have no way of seeing an option offense moving the ball, let alone scoring, on one of the best defenses in years and an elite run stopping defense. Just ask the very good Penn State team that year how it went for them haha.

Edit: Michigan and Nebraska had 2 common opponents

Colorado- Michigan beat them 27-3 // Nebraska beat them 27-24

Baylor- Michigan beat them 38-3 // Nebraska beat them 49-21


The Big 12 was awful then, as well. In fact Nebraska played 8 ranked teams in Frost's two seasons while Michigan played that in just 1997. Michigan's schedule was light years better than Nebraska's patsy schedule that year.

Michigan beat 7, top 25 teams and 4, top ten teams

Nebraska beat 4, top 25 teams and 2, top ten teams


This post was edited by TooL89 on Jun 24 2017 07:44am
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