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Jun 19 2017 08:38am
looks like the eu wants to go after member states who refuse to take in refugees
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/13/eu-takes-action-against-eastern-states-for-refusing-to-take-refugees
personally i think if a country doesn't want to take in refugees the people ought to have a right to self determination that should allow them to deny entry to refugees
what does everyone else make of this? while i'm not against taking in refugees, the idea of mandatory quotas decided by the eu is kinda pushing it
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Jun 19 2017 08:38am
Quote (duffman316 @ Jun 19 2017 05:38pm)
looks like the eu wants to go after member states who refuse to take in refugees
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/13/eu-takes-action-against-eastern-states-for-refusing-to-take-refugees
personally i think if a country doesn't want to take in refugees the people ought to have a right to self determination that should allow them to deny entry to refugees
what does everyone else make of this? while i'm not against taking in refugees, the idea of mandatory quotas decided by the eu is kinda pushing it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_asylum#Modern_political_asylum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_Relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees

If they wish to leech off of the benefits that the European Union brings, then they should also do what is required to be a member of the European Union - follow the law and respect human rights.

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Jun 19 2017 08:39am
another loser who thinks violence against those they disagree with is the answer, must have learned a thing or two from the truck drivers in france, germany, and the democratic socialist james t. hodgkinson
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Jun 19 2017 08:42am
Quote (IceMage @ 19 Jun 2017 15:04)
Deep down the Trump cult loves this.


some aren't even trying to hide it "deep down"...
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Jun 19 2017 08:49am
Quote (duffman316 @ 19 Jun 2017 16:38)
looks like the eu wants to go after member states who refuse to take in refugees
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/13/eu-takes-action-against-eastern-states-for-refusing-to-take-refugees
personally i think if a country doesn't want to take in refugees the people ought to have a right to self determination that should allow them to deny entry to refugees
what does everyone else make of this? while i'm not against taking in refugees, the idea of mandatory quotas decided by the eu is kinda pushing it


Keeping them all bunched together in a handful of countries isn't going to help them integrate into Europe... it's much better if they are spread out. It's also unfair for the countries that are taking them in, to carry with the whole weight of the crisis. Plus countries can't just ignore the treaties they signed regarding refugees.

Compulsory quotas are a good thing in this case, although they must be done properly taking into account each country's population, unemployment, etc, which admittedly isn't easy to do and will surely end up upsetting some member states.
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Jun 19 2017 08:55am
Quote (excellence @ Jun 19 2017 09:39am)
another loser who thinks violence against those they disagree with is the answer, must have learned a thing or two from the truck drivers in france, germany, and the democratic socialist james t. hodgkinson


There are plenty of losers out there who are enemies of multiculturalism. In fact everybody who has ever driven his trick through a crowd has been an enemy of multiculturalism in one form or another.

Sad!

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Jun 19 2017 09:19am
Quote (Gastly @ Jun 19 2017 09:38am)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_asylum#Modern_political_asylum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_Relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees

If they wish to leech off of the benefits that the European Union brings, then they should also do what is required to be a member of the European Union - follow the law and respect human rights.


looks like a list of short sighted feel good policies that would recreate 3rd world ghettos in western countries as it makes no mention of policies for mandatory assimilation and integration into society
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Jun 19 2017 09:25am
https://twitter.com/News_Executive/status/876816714943561728

You know what happens if you try to use a car bomb to ram a target instead of detonating it?
Reports are saying the Champs-Elysees attacker had a gun in his vehicle among other weapons. This could have been really bad- if he hadn't knocked himself unconscious and burned to death, he might have gotten out of his car and thrown his gun at someone

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jun 19 2017 09:27am
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Quote (Gastly @ Jun 19 2017 04:38pm)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_asylum#Modern_political_asylum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_Relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees

If they wish to leech off of the benefits that the European Union brings, then they should also do what is required to be a member of the European Union - follow the law and respect human rights.


Exactly.

on topic: This is so stupid but I expected it tbh. We will see more terror attacks from both radical islamists and radical nationalists. May the dead rest in peace and the injured recover soon.
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Jun 19 2017 09:33am
Quote (Tjo @ Jun 19 2017 10:27am)
Exactly.

on topic: This is so stupid but I expected it tbh. We will see more terror attacks from both radical islamists and radical nationalists. May the dead rest in peace and the injured recover soon.


somehow i'm not convinced the numbers will be similar
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