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Apr 18 2017 04:17pm
Quote (liskod2 @ Apr 18 2017 06:14pm)
Shadow master :bonk:


maxed out shadow master doesn't deal enough damage to break bone armor.

Quote (DayAsNight @ Apr 18 2017 06:12pm)
Well, I can easily spot the lies here since if you had tried it you would realize that all your conclusions are wrong.

In caster form, you keep cta on you, so you just recast if they keep delaying the fight. If you think it deals no dmg, read my other post above. You have no reason to lose fcr mid fight, I think you don't understand, you're not switching gear mid fight... it's only an option between each duels...

And about your concerns of low frw on bear form, that's why this setup is only used in melee vs melee. Anything hard to catch you just use the other setup, it's that simple.


Typically anyone saying they "do very well" on a shapeshifter probably is either lying, has never played the build or has never played against anyone good.

Especially alarming are comments like
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That was originaly designed to easily achieve a 100% win rate in caster vs caster duel.


Quote (DayAsNight @ Apr 18 2017 06:15pm)
Not at all, like I said your base physical dmg is irrelevant... He can't reduce crushing blow, he can't reduce open wounds, and no matter how much you reduce venom, it's still enough to deliver the killing blow
A 8k life baba with max block, 95% psn res and -75% reduce psn lenght still dies under 4 sec


crushing blow, venom and open wounds can't drop you below 1 life. If you equip a helmet that negates the physical portion of your 60 damage claw and your 50 damage blade shield it becomes impossible to die for as long as you remain shapeshifted.
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Apr 18 2017 04:19pm
Quote (Worrywart @ 19 Apr 2017 00:17)
maxed out shadow master doesn't deal enough damage to break bone armor.



Typically anyone saying they "do very well" on a shapeshifter probably is either lying, has never played the build or has never played against anyone good.

Especially alarming are comments like




crushing blow, venom and open wounds can't drop you below 1 life. If you equip a helmet that negates the physical portion of your 60 damage claw and your 50 damage blade shield it becomes impossible to die for as long as you remain shapeshifted.


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Apr 18 2017 04:20pm
Quote (liskod2 @ Apr 18 2017 06:19pm)
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repeating yourself doesn't make the build work
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Apr 18 2017 04:21pm
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repeating yourself doesn't make the build work


Ur sense of humore is low atm

This post was edited by liskod2 on Apr 18 2017 04:21pm
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Apr 18 2017 04:32pm
mindblast damage can surely kill 1 life ?

you could also use demon limb

This post was edited by nuvo on Apr 18 2017 04:37pm
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Apr 18 2017 04:39pm
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mindblast damage can surely kill 1 life ?

you could also use demon limb


a zero damage attack cannot kill a 1 life opponent

level 23 enchant deals 19 damage after pvp penalty. You're running into the same problems that his 0% ed claw has.
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Apr 18 2017 04:44pm
If he has both integer dr and fire res and other res (eg. raven frost can deliver that 1 point of damage)

better yet, add some fire, cold and light scs

but still, high enough mindblast will deliver 200+ before pvp penalty edit: derp

This post was edited by nuvo on Apr 18 2017 04:45pm
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If he has both integer dr and fire res and other res (eg. raven frost can deliver that 1 point of damage)

better yet, add some fire, cold and light scs

but still, high enough mindblast will deliver 200+ before pvp penalty


200 mindblast is 33 after pvp penalty. You haven't resolved the problem.
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Apr 18 2017 04:49pm
Just throwing this out there, gbane used to be a very popular melee armor and it adds 20 Dr 20 mdr 50% plr and like 1900 defense


I like how you guys are arguing about how to make the build useless when it's already useless. He's on a 10k ar sin against 50k defense mb dins. His claw breaks before he gets a kill against a finished din.
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Apr 18 2017 04:51pm
Yeah, realized after typing.

Okay, psychic hammer for magic damage or 1 point traps on top of it too

how many builds have integer res/absorb for every type of damage at the same time? Or even that kind of items in stash at all?

not that this isn't useless char anyway, but killing opponent at 1 life is the least of the problems imho. It will be long dead before reaching that anyway

This post was edited by nuvo on Apr 18 2017 04:52pm
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