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S1&2 were the shit. S3 was shit. Can’t wait to love or hate s4. Hopper ain’t dead. If he was dead, we’dve seen him die.
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Quote (BloodLust911 @ Feb 12 2020 12:06pm)
S1&2 were the shit. S3 was shit. Can’t wait to love or hate s4. Hopper ain’t dead. If he was dead, we’dve seen him die.


It lost its magic after S1 for me
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Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Feb 14 2020 09:40am)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB2GYwbIAlM


pretty dumb to shit on the S3 cliffhanger way before S4 is even announced

should have saved the reveal for the final scene of S4E1
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Feb 15 2020 01:54am
Quote (Kayeto @ Feb 15 2020 07:03am)
pretty dumb to shit on the S3 cliffhanger way before S4 is even announced

should have saved the reveal for the final scene of S4E1


It is rather perplexing.. why on earth would they reveal the answer to the question everyone was asking after season 3 in a fucking teaser trailer!
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Feb 15 2020 03:08pm
Quote (WelSh @ Feb 15 2020 02:54am)
It is rather perplexing.. why on earth would they reveal the answer to the question everyone was asking after season 3 in a fucking teaser trailer!


The after credits scene last season already spoiled it though.
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Feb 15 2020 09:07pm
Quote (fuzzy159 @ Feb 15 2020 04:08pm)
The after credits scene last season already spoiled it though.


that scene allowed fans to speculate on who the American was. This trailer seemed to put an end to the speculation by strongly implying that it was Hopper.

Personally, I really liked the theory that the American was Dr. Brenner and that Hopper had escaped into TUD. That would explain how the Russians got the portal tech. S4E1 could have ended by revealing Hopper to us.
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Quote (Kayeto @ Feb 15 2020 10:07pm)
that scene allowed fans to speculate on who the American was. This trailer seemed to put an end to the speculation by strongly implying that it was Hopper.

Personally, I really liked the theory that the American was Dr. Brenner and that Hopper had escaped into TUD. That would explain how the Russians got the portal tech. S4E1 could have ended by revealing Hopper to us.


What...

People actually thought the American was a character who got killed 2 seasons ago lol....? It was very obvious it was Hopper.

This post was edited by fuzzy159 on Feb 16 2020 05:41pm
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Quote (fuzzy159 @ Feb 16 2020 06:41pm)
It was very obvious it was Hopper.


there's no doubt that the show's intention was to have viewers immediately think of Hopper as soon as we hear the guards say "the American". But there is also some intentional ambiguity there.

Why would a show drag out a long "death scene" only to confirm right after the credits that the death was fake? It harms the narrative way greatly.

After reading a little fan discussion, it seemed more likely that Hopper was the "all-too-obvious red herring". I still hope that that is the case and that this teaser was simply more misdirection. Regardless, it is disappointing that it dampened the fan speculation that had been rampant since the end of last season.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Feb 16 2020 09:25pm
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Feb 19 2020 04:44pm
We knew it was Hopper but why straight up show him? Poor decision making right there.
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