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Aug 12 2020 11:38am
Quote (thesnipa @ 12 Aug 2020 19:24)
ahh yes because those "just own it" sound bytes never have a way of coming back to haunt people.

whether its a #metoo accusation or political misdeeds owning it has its own backlash. deny, downplay, dodge, dip, duck, dive, and dodge. it is the way.


Yeah, I phrased that the wrong way. She should of course not go "yes, I slept with my boss and it advanced my career, and it was the right thing to do, deal with it".
What I mean is that she should stand by her bio instead of trying to run from it. Something along the lines of "Yes, my personal connections might have given me a minor headstart 30 years ago. Since then, I rose and rose and rose through countless ranks, all the way to the US Senate, because I really am that good."
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Aug 12 2020 11:42am
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Yeah, I phrased that the wrong way. She should of course not go "yes, I slept with my boss and it advanced my career, and it was the right thing to do, deal with it".
What I mean is that she should stand by her bio instead of trying to run from it. Something along the lines of "Yes, my personal connections might have given me a minor headstart 30 years ago. Since then, I rose and rose and rose through countless ranks, all the way to the US Senate, because I really am that good."


if she admits her house was built on sand the high tide will was it away. admitting political fault is always a bad idea. see: biden dodging his voting record and not owning it. owning mistakes is never worth the blowback, especially in the soundbyte era.
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Aug 12 2020 11:44am
Quote (fender @ 12 Aug 2020 19:38)
what is it with right wingers and misogyny? ghot and blackzit, two people who completely ignore trump's countless incidents of sexual misconducts (walking into teenager dressing rooms to see them naked, paying porn stars for sex while his wife is pregnant, being extremely creepy with his daughter, grabbing women by the pussy, dozens of credible rape and sexual harassment allegations and settlements, attending teenage sex parties with his good buddy epstein...) are suddenly so obsessed with rumours about kamala harris' sex life, it seems to be all they can think about. incels 4 life, lol...


I wouldnt be obsessed with her sex life if she had an impressive track record in recent years. But she doesnt.

In reality, she slept her way up at the start of her career, then underperformed like crazy in her 2010 AG run, then angered both progressives and conservatives during her time as AG, then ran a horrible campaign for president which flopped really hard, then got the nomination as VP anyway because she was the only black woman with a national profile and sufficient vetting. She's a clumsy politician, her ideology and policies and antics all totally suck, and soon, she might be one heartbeat away from becoming POTUS.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 12 2020 10:21am)
Sleeping with Willie Brown is the foundation on which her political career is built. That's just the truth, no matter how inconvenient or "unfair" it might be. Coupled with the way the veepstakes were filtered by gender and race, it just reflects badly on her.
Denying her past will only make things worse for her. She should just own it and emphasize her great track record since then. But oh wait, this track record sucks ass. And then she got the VP nomination as the affirmative action candidate. Too bad.

But on a more neutral, objective note: she should just ignore those nasty critiics like myself. I'm a racist sexist dinosaur and a partisan hack, I was never gonna like her. She doesnt need people like me to like her.


This is actually really good self-awareness. I think if more people could self-reflect, they'd be able to understand the big picture better. I find myself having to check myself a lot when it comes to my biases.

I don't think her political career STARTED with Willie Brown. She was already working the DA's office for several years before meeting him. Her appointments certainly helped, but it's probably not a big deal. I agree that her record sucks but I don't think it's particularly terrible either. She's not UNQUALIFIED for the position but she's definitely not the most qualified either. A lot of it comes down to intangibles which she has a lot of.
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Aug 12 2020 11:48am
Quote (thesnipa @ 12 Aug 2020 19:42)
if she admits her house was built on sand the high tide will was it away. admitting political fault is always a bad idea. see: biden dodging his voting record and not owning it. owning mistakes is never worth the blowback, especially in the soundbyte era.


Perhaps you're right. I would suck so hard as a politician, I'm far too straightforward and willing to say unpopular things. :lol:
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Aug 12 2020 11:52am
Quote (fender @ Aug 12 2020 10:38am)
what is it with right wingers and misogyny? ghot and blackzit, two people who completely ignore trump's countless incidents of sexual misconducts (walking into teenager dressing rooms to see them naked, paying porn stars for sex while his wife is pregnant, being extremely creepy with his daughter, grabbing women by the pussy, dozens of credible rape and sexual harassment allegations and settlements, attending teenage sex parties with his good buddy epstein...) are suddenly so obsessed with rumours about kamala harris' sex life, it seems to be all they can think about. incels 4 life, lol...


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Aug 12 2020 12:08pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 12 2020 12:48pm)
Perhaps you're right. I would suck so hard as a politician, I'm far too straightforward and willing to say unpopular things. :lol:


a good rule for politics is that anyone who wants to hear you apologize already isnt going to vote for you.
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Aug 12 2020 12:10pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 12 2020 01:38pm)
Yeah, I phrased that the wrong way. She should of course not go "yes, I slept with my boss and it advanced my career, and it was the right thing to do, deal with it".
What I mean is that she should stand by her bio instead of trying to run from it. Something along the lines of "Yes, my personal connections might have given me a minor headstart 30 years ago. Since then, I rose and rose and rose through countless ranks, all the way to the US Senate, because I really am that good."


It sounds stupid when you say she slept her way to the top. Who do you fuck to become a senator?

Gtfo
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Aug 12 2020 12:12pm
Quote (Skinned @ 12 Aug 2020 20:10)
It sounds stupid when you say she slept her way to the top. Who do you fuck to become a senator?

Gtfo


I didnt say she was sleeping up all the way to the top, I said sleeping with her boss jumpstarted her political career.
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Aug 12 2020 12:13pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 12 Aug 2020 19:44)
I wouldnt be obsessed with her sex life if she had an impressive track record in recent years. But she doesnt.

In reality, she slept her way up at the start of her career, then underperformed like crazy in her 2010 AG run, then angered both progressives and conservatives during her time as AG, then ran a horrible campaign for president which flopped really hard, then got the nomination as VP anyway because she was the only black woman with a national profile and sufficient vetting. She's a clumsy politician, her ideology and policies and antics all totally suck, and soon, she might be one heartbeat away from becoming POTUS.


whatever you have to tell yourself. guess it was trump's "impressive track record" that made you completely ignore all his sexual misconduct then, huh? unbelievable how you manage to post shit like that without being embarrassed, lol.
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