Quote (Hizkuntza @ Jun 17 2019 09:33pm)

2 elite + good depth turns most teams into contenders lol. I don't disagree with your logic but problem is that Benning's moves have been a complete cacophony. First, give up picks for mediocre talent to try to retool to no avail... then overpay for veterans... then let veterans walk and do what exactly? We're bottom 3 in the blue line, bottom 5 in forwards and bottom 10 in goaltending. Hughes and DiPietro are our only blue-chip prospects (esp. with Juolevi looking like a bust). If he doesn't intend to make a genuine run for the playoffs he has to stockpile futures since we're so far removed from being relevant, but hanging onto Edler and other vets back in February makes no sense if that was the plan all along.

Quote (Hizkuntza @ 17 Jun 2019 21:33)

2 elite + good depth turns most teams into contenders lol. I don't disagree with your logic but problem is that Benning's moves have been a complete cacophony. First, give up picks for mediocre talent to try to retool to no avail... then overpay for veterans... then let veterans walk and do what exactly? We're bottom 3 in the blue line, bottom 5 in forwards and bottom 10 in goaltending. Hughes and DiPietro are our only blue-chip prospects (esp. with Juolevi looking like a bust). If he doesn't intend to make a genuine run for the playoffs he has to stockpile futures since we're so far removed from being relevant, but hanging onto Edler and other vets back in February makes no sense if that was the plan all along.

Quote (Secksii @ Jun 17 2019 10:42pm)

Also aquaman didn't approve of a rebuild til like 2 yrs ago. So in his 5 yrs, 3 was wasted trying to retool on the fly trying to please the owner, but at least now he got the green light from aqua and it seems like they're on the same page at least.

Quote (Secksii @ Jun 18 2019 06:42am)

You can't blame Benning for not getting shit for edler though, edler used his ntc and didn't wanna move out of vancouver. However he takes all the blame for waiting too long on players that we all knew shoulda been traded when they had more value like Tanev.
Though I gotta give credit to him for trading away some players he felt wasn't in his future plans like Burrows, Hansen, shinky etc.

Also aquaman didn't approve of a rebuild til like 2 yrs ago. So in his 5 yrs, 3 was wasted trying to retool on the fly trying to please the owner, but at least now he got the green light from aqua and it seems like they're on the same page at least.

Quote (LuLer @ 17 Jun 2019 22:52)

I don't let Benning off the hook for the first two years. When he took the job, he obviously agreed with the owner that he could turn it around quick. It's on him for believing in that idiotic plan.

Nobody would have taken the job if they knew it was setup for failure. If Benning can't turn this around soon it'll be a huge black mark on his resume, doubt he'll ever get be a GM again.

Quote (Hizkuntza @ 17 Jun 2019 22:53)

Hard to gauge how much blame Aquaman (and formerly Linden) gets here, does Benning really have a lame-duck position like Dorion in Ottawa? I agree that trades like Burrows and Hansen were the right moves and I'll even praise him for cleaning up his own Gudbranson mess but the whole picture is still confused. The timing is also pretty bad for a full rebuild... Horvat, Petterson and Boeser are all ready to compete but by the time we're in a position to add the necessary pieces they'll be commanding top dollar.

Quote (Hizkuntza @ Jun 17 2019 10:53pm)

Hard to gauge how much blame Aquaman (and formerly Linden) gets here, does Benning really have a lame-duck position like Dorion in Ottawa? I agree that trades like Burrows and Hansen were the right moves and I'll even praise him for cleaning up his own Gudbranson mess but the whole picture is still confused. The timing is also pretty bad for a full rebuild... Horvat, Petterson and Boeser are all ready to compete but by the time we're in a position to add the necessary pieces they'll be commanding top dollar.

Quote (Hizkuntza @ 20 Jun 2019 13:02)

Edler got 6x2. Will be UFA when expansion draft kicks in. Good job Benning.

Quote (Secksii @ Jun 20 2019 11:34pm)

Also if Seattle expansion happens sooner than expected, there's a clause he can be exposed, despite having full nmc in those 2yrs