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Jul 10 2008 07:42pm
Quote (MyAddiction @ Thu, Jul 10 2008, 09:32pm)
Due to the argument from people too lazy to make a guide, I won't continue this.

E: I'll just keep the guides private.


Rather than keep the guides private, it would be a great service to the community if you could explain why you believe these options are best, and how they are superior to other options. It does others no good to have guides kept private, and it does not help much to have inaccurate guides either, but supplying and explaining strategies agreed to be highly effective by many players and proven superior to other tactics is greatly helpful to less experienced players those not well versed in game mechanics.
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Jul 10 2008 08:46pm
Quote (Zodijackyl @ Thu, Jul 10 2008, 07:42pm)
Rather than keep the guides private, it would be a great service to the community if you could explain why you believe these options are best, and how they are superior to other options. It does others no good to have guides kept private, and it does not help much to have inaccurate guides either, but supplying and explaining strategies agreed to be highly effective by many players and proven superior to other tactics is greatly helpful to less experienced players those not well versed in game mechanics.


he obviously is voicing his opinion.. if you do not agree with it, or care to allow him to voice it, please make your own meele guide stating your opinon, or, you could be the one doing the "test" and get some hard research instead of making him feel retarded......

fake edit: squiggle > bnet

Quote (Stillwater0129 @ Thu, Jul 10 2008, 08:51pm)
Criticism is a argument, if your gonna make a guide expect to be criticized


this is critcism with no constructivness behind it... ladderslasher mechanics are very shady... not many people no how the game work except paul for sure, no1 can be expected to (i cant think anymore i just looked at your avatar)

This post was edited by pocketwatch on Jul 10 2008 08:56pm
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Jul 10 2008 08:51pm
Criticism is a argument, if your gonna make a guide expect to be criticized
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Jul 10 2008 10:17pm
nice

but yeah, make a guide, expect criticism

also i kinda like stats and actual backing of why you go 150 dex
kinda like this

he placed ome maths around it tongue.gif i love numbers

Quote (A_U_T_I_S_M @ Fri, Jul 4 2008, 10:45am)

As Of I Know this Is The Most Complete Matching Set Of Charms To Date Owned By 1 Person (from lvl 1 to MQ)

You Ask Why No lvl 55 Charm?

I would need a 204 EE lvl 55 lightning Charm To Be As Efficient As My MQ charm, And 1 exists to My Knowledge (jelipe) 222EE light

logic = tier 11 X 201 EE = tier power 33.11
logic = tier 14 X 200 EE = tier power 42.00

33.11 / 105 Mana Cost = a ratio of 3.17 mana per tier
42.00 / 135 Mana Cost = a ratio of 3.21 mana per tier

exact math = 3.17 power/mana ratio @ a tier 14 base would = tier power 42.57 on a tier 14 charm would be equal in power

that is 204 EE would be same mana/dmg ratio but less clicks =)

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Jul 11 2008 12:04am
Quote (MyAddiction @ Fri, Jul 11 2008, 02:28am)
I've done 6 test melee climbs, 150 is best.

I tried a 130/110 build and it was absolutely horrible.

well, one problem, everyone has different ls gear wink.gif

different gear (especially weapons) means that 150 dex on ur character can work different than 150 on another character.
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Jul 11 2008 12:17am
120-130 dex works about the same as 150 dex. The only difference between 120-130 and 150 is how fast you attack and how much damage you take from a critical. There is not a sigificant increase.

Strength is way more productive then dex now.

The best setup now for welling is a character stacked with life and strength and Very nice ee weapon and life steal if you can get it. If you can't afford to get that. Then this melee build will not cut it. You be better off going caster.

Heres my setup on HC.

Magical ultimanium sword
Level Req: 55
Damage: 100 to 1003
+156% Enhanced Effect

Mythical diamond chain mail
Level Req: 40
Defense: 37 to 93
+40 Strength
+2 Life Regen
+1 to 5 Mana per Attack
+3% Life Steal
+1% Physical Damage Reduction

Mystical earth IX
Level Req: 30
Spell Damage: 86 to 150
Mana Cost: 85
+108% Enhanced Effect
+33 Strength
+1% Life Steal

And my stats of the character.

Str: 186
Dex: 55
Int: 20
Vit: 75

This is at lvl 63. I have no problems and there are still areas I could improve on such as getting more life steal and strength. Having dex is not required. Str is now just as effective.

This post was edited by sir_lance_bb on Jul 11 2008 12:24am
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Jul 11 2008 12:20am
Quote (squiggle @ Thu, Jul 10 2008, 07:30pm)
So... you are just posting on personal opinion. Many others have climbed and prefered the 130ish Dex.


Isn't a guide pretty much made from personal opinions? If you have a problem with the build MyAddiction is recommending then simply don't use it. Enough said.


I can't wait for the full version cody. Thanks for the guide thumbsup.gif
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Jul 11 2008 12:39am
Quote (ZenD @ Fri, Jul 11 2008, 01:20am)
Isn't a guide pretty much made from personal opinions? If you have a problem with the build MyAddiction is recommending then simply don't use it. Enough said.


I can't wait for the full version cody. Thanks for the guide thumbsup.gif


Not really. You want as little opinion as possible, what you want is fact. Due to all the specifics of game mechanics not being known, you have to test as much as possible the different variations. I can't give input because
I havn't done so.

This post was edited by XxXHellFireXxX on Jul 11 2008 12:39am
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Jul 11 2008 12:51am
Quote (ZenD @ Fri, Jul 11 2008, 04:20pm)
Isn't a guide pretty much made from personal opinions? If you have a problem with the build MyAddiction is recommending then simply don't use it. Enough said.


I can't wait for the full version cody. Thanks for the guide thumbsup.gif


Eh, a guide should show the most effective way to do things. Saying "150 dex is best" isn't the most effective.

I have a problem with an inaccurate guide, that tells people the wrong thing. No point making a guide if you don't make it good and make it correct.
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Jul 11 2008 10:34am
It's nice that you make a guide for the community,
Yet my experience makes me pump up strength and stat dex to 110.
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