For min maxing it's nice to get +3 fade switch and roll Plague in both for a total +10 fade on swap. And lvl 55 BO helps too

Softcore, just cta swap, nothing else. I might not even bother with infinity. I'll first with try with insight or reaper merc.


I wasn't specifically looking for this base but it saves 3 points anyways. I'll put those in claw mastery when I want to generate charges faster without infinity. There is always a points dump in a sin skilltree.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Mar 28 2024 03:03am

No infinity barely feels any different except on P8 bosses, but charging up is a chore with bad AR.

That's why I stack 25% crushing blow without infinity. We'll see, if it's too slow I might give up insight/reaper on p8 vs infinity.

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2 mosaics and 102 fcr

Enigma
Griffons Cham
Trangs
Arach
Any elite boot
2/17+
Fcr rings

This

I think for most p8 terror zones, 102 fcr is better overall. 65 fcr needs easy access and the monsters need to be tanky enough for your damage increase to reduce the number of kicks needed to be better than 102 fcr imo. The best terror zones like tombs and wsk require a lot of tele. Even though chaos is fairly easy to access and has tanky mobs, fast tele helps there too. Also, what if there's a nova sorc in the game that statics the mobs for you? Then 102 fcr is better even in otherwise ideal 65 fcr situations.

This post was edited by pat777b on Mar 28 2024 10:11am

What I really meant is…

Lots of 102fcr builds are not reaching the last kick bp
So if you have to chose between losing 1 frame each time you attack or loosing 1 frame each time you tele, the choice should be based on which you do most.

With GT you need 46ias
More if not the optimal base for your main hand
Tons of 102fcr builds only count on the 20ias from mosaic
Its not too bad, you lose only 1 frame on last kick
BUT
Its bad if you are decrepified or vs holy freeze
If you did have the 46ias bp you only drop from (3)+7 to (4)+11
If you have the commonly used 102 fcr setup with 20ias, you drop to (5)+13
That’s 14 frames lost per kick (assuming 5 kicks)

Also, on a 65 fcr setup, once in the action, you can rely on dFlight to tele which doesnt use fcr. Its a safer option since it triggers fhr instantly and you remain safe when jumping in big packs

Tl;dr
Go 102 fcr if you are able to reach 46ias and are using GT/RT
Or if you use BoS instead of fade, but then you need some res charms

Go 65fcr if you cant. Ideally 67fcr and use a 35 spirit on switch so you have 102fcr when you are only teleing

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Mar 28 2024 10:31am

you need frame perfect reflexes or something to take advantage of the extra frame saved during attacks (pretty much don't need multiple dtalon sequences)

but when you chain together teles to go somewhere, you just hold down button. or when telestomping, you have time to click attack after the action frames of tele and before the finishing animation. no special reflexes needed to take advantage of the fcr frame saved