Make thorns effective in pvm?

Let’s say you have a bramble merc on a barb that does no damage anyway

Then stack a shit ton of lifesteal with decrepify merc ?

Iirc it’s phys dmg right?

Maybe even lacerator throw barb?



I mean let’s say you have a lvl 21 thorns bramble on your reapers toll might merc

And either of you gets hit by -300 life. With decrepify that 1050% dmg returned from thorns should be 3150 damage right? This works for both merc and the barb itself and you guys can just stack a shit ton of lifesteal or am I tripping?

I agree that it wouldn’t matter on a lot of chars, but perhaps it could help some on barbs since they deal shit dmg anyway in p8





edit;

currently gonna test a grief pb + eternity offhand zerk barb with bramble merc, see how it works xD with revives

This post was edited by Stefbef on Mar 27 2024 05:53am

Tracking. Would be cool haha

well the eternity thing is ass im hesitant to not even use shout to get lower defense to get them to hit more often

the bramble seems to deal some dmg in p1 tho, not crazy much

probably not too much in p8




edit: hmm actually when im amped in chaos etc one hit does like half their healthbar to those obsidian knights

but its only when i am amped and its still p1, didnt have decrepify on the dude though so would deal even more there

This post was edited by Stefbef on Mar 27 2024 06:12am

monsters gain +50% extra life with each additional player but only ~6% extra dmg so things like thorns don't scale well with player count unfortunately. You could still make a char around this for example rode made a summon nec that uses thorns and spirit of barbs on a summon necro and casts amp but i doubt it will be optimal for any setup.

hmm yea that sucks :/

i guess its still does some damage and its better than nothing on chars like ele druid/summon necro but i doubt its much more than forti would give

does thorns from merc stack btw?

like the active aura with the bramble aura?

on like a physical pvm druid you could get something like this if so:

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/0a2640zg

maxed spirit of barbs gives some damage returned

decrepify removes 50% dr

and if the aura's woudl stack (which i dont think it does, you'll have over 2300% dmg returned + attacker takes damage of 1500 with barbs+thorns) which works on summons

This post was edited by Stefbef on Mar 27 2024 06:37am

On windy it’s probably worse than other options since you’ll be keeping monstered slowed with doom and fhr’d with hurri. Maybe ok vs death lords that can’t be slowed I suppose.

oh yeah you're right

maybe it helps a bit on fire dudu, but the problem there is that you have quite a lot of synergies so cant rly max barbs



i dnno how i got onto the subject of druid, im just trying to min max horrible p8 barb xD, but maybe its just chaos that feels like such a pain cos whirlwind is just ass there and even throw deals meh dmg cos of constant decrepify

This post was edited by Stefbef on Mar 27 2024 06:44am

Even if thorns dmg is respectable in pvm it will still suck as it only applies to melee dmg

Like what would you do, farm cows for exp lol

haha yea barb is brutal to lvl. Ondals pre-teled TZ baal runs is the most min/max you'll find for them.

Even a perfectly optimized throw barb with 100% perfect gear/rare/hero edited items and chant sorc isn't going to be as fast as any other character's meta build unfortunately.

This post was edited by Void511 on Mar 27 2024 06:47am