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Quote (Santara @ 2 Mar 2024 10:42)
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.


Senators and Representatives are not Presidents.

This is part of why I believe that the "people" should not be voting on Presidents, it should still fall to the House/Senate, as it was originally written.
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Quote (Santara @ Mar 2 2024 09:42am)
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.


I think Bobb's point is that states shouldn't have the power to exclude anybody from their ballots. This power can be abused, as in, states can simply only allow people they like to be presidential candidates.
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Quote (JessiWan @ 2 Mar 2024 18:18)
I think Bobb's point is that states shouldn't have the power to exclude anybody from their ballots. This power can be abused, as in, states can simply only allow people they like to be presidential candidates.


No, what he posted about senators and representatives was correct. Because Senators and Representatives allegedly represent the people of that specific State.

The President enacts the will of the entire nation, in theory at least. That one state would somehow magically have the power to say, "Even though there are millions of people in this state who would prefer to be represented by this guy, and he meets all the qualifications for the ballot, we're just going to not allow him on the ballot!" is rather absurd. And given not a single J6 defendant has been convicted of insurrection, there simply was no insurrection. Insurrection is a Federal level charge, and the Federal government has brought no such charges, and had no such conviction.
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Quote (JessiWan @ Mar 2 2024 07:18pm)
I think Bobb's point is that states shouldn't have the power to exclude anybody from their ballots. This power can be abused, as in, states can simply only allow people they like to be presidential candidates.


As a libertarian voter, I know all too well that states have the power to exclude people from the ballot. The power IS abused, all the time. This is another in a long series, and the only real difference is that it's happening to a major party candidate for once.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Mar 2 2024 11:10pm)
No, what he posted about senators and representatives was correct. Because Senators and Representatives allegedly represent the people of that specific State.

The President enacts the will of the entire nation, in theory at least. That one state would somehow magically have the power to say, "Even though there are millions of people in this state who would prefer to be represented by this guy, and he meets all the qualifications for the ballot, we're just going to not allow him on the ballot!" is rather absurd. And given not a single J6 defendant has been convicted of insurrection, there simply was no insurrection. Insurrection is a Federal level charge, and the Federal government has brought no such charges, and had no such conviction.


The thing is, no one from the South from the Civil War era was charged as an insurrectionist, but there were sure a hell of a lot of them that were excluded from ballots.
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Quote (Santara @ 3 Mar 2024 10:32)
The thing is, no one from the South from the Civil War era was charged as an insurrectionist, but there were sure a hell of a lot of them that were excluded from ballots.


NOT from the Presidential ballot. The solution to keeping someone out of the whitehouse is faithless electors.

What you said regarding Reps and Senators is correct, but once again, that's specifically because in theory, that's a Sate level election for representation in Congress. Rep represents their district, Senator represents their state. A Presidential election is unique, and attempts to prevent potential Candidates from the ballot by some states is very nearly an open declaration of war against other states. "We're going to make it so your guy can't win, and you MUST be ruled by who we tell you."

What would you think if Texas said, "Biden's committing war against Texas by not enforcing immigration law on the southern border, and instead allowing millions in. He is therefore disqualified from the ballot." Would you stand for that? Then why should Texas stand for you saying, "Trump inspired an insurrection!" when there has been no insurrection, Trump called for no insurrection, he simply followed the Constitutional process to a T in challenging the results of an election, precisely as he was supposed to?
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Perfect example for someone from Illinois(me) to prove to all these libtards how broken voting and the two party system really is.

Chicago has controlled Illinois for DECADES despite a majority of the state being RED.

The ENTIRE REASON they pulled this is because for the FIRST TIME EVER people who were democrat are now considering voting republican in Illinois.

Almost EVERYONE I know has contemplated this and some for the 1st time in 20-30-50 years.

This is a sign to all you thinking of voting "Democrat" this term. Trump and MAGA has already won.

When you have a state like Illinois in your "back pocket" and now you have to quadruple down on the brainwashing and your still not swaying votes. It's over.

I don't know what Democrats are thinking. Literally braindead.

"Don't vote for Trump Illinoisans we're the democrats who robbed your parents and pissed on the city you were born in".

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Mar 3 2024 08:42pm
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Bu but but he called illegal immigrants rapists!!!!

https://newschannel9.com/amp/news/local/15-year-old-girl-raped-in-ooltewah-undocumented-immigrant-from-mexico-facing-charges-erik-santillan-auburn-hills-sexual-assault-aggravated-rape
https://www.foxnews.com/us/honduran-illegal-migrant-arrested-rape-girl-14-stabbing-man-knifepoint-robbery.amp
https://www.reuters.com/world/migrants-are-being-raped-mexico-border-they-await-entry-us-2023-09-29/
https://www.hhri.org/publication/i-didnt-have-anywhere-to-run-migrant-women-are-facing-a-rape-epidemic/
https://news.yahoo.com/illegal-migrants-convictions-murder-rape-144149109.html
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/haitian-illegal-immigrant-charged-with-rape-released-back-onto-streets-in-boston-despite-ice-appeals.amp
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/03/us/border-rapes-migrant-women.html
https://www.mysuncoast.com/2024/02/26/illegal-immigrant-arrest-sexual-assault-charges-englewood/?outputType=amp
https://www.fox8live.com/2024/02/27/undocument-immigrant-accused-rape-stabbing-separate-kenner-incidents/?outputType=amp
https://cbs6albany.com/amp/news/local/four-migrants-arrested-at-colonie-surestay-hotel-albany-county-employee-charged-with-rape-criminal-possession-of-weapon-menacing-petit-larceny-mischief-knife-impaired-alcohol-asylum-seekers
https://theaugustapress.com/illegal-immigrant-is-wanted-for-rape-of-10-year-old-girl-in-aiken/
https://www.audacy.com/wben/news/local/migrant-charged-with-rape-in-cheektowaga
https://wjla.com/amp/news/local/ice-undocumented-immigrant-deported-twice-before-caught-raping-woman-under-stairwell
https://nypost.com/2023/08/09/asylum-seeker-accused-of-raping-woman-in-front-of-3-year-old-in-ny/amp/
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-arrests-salvadoran-alien-accused-rape-who-went-victims-house-immediately-after
https://buffalonews.com/news/local/national-guard-headed-to-cheektowaga-hotels-housing-asylum-seekers-after-second-sex-crime-arrest/article_f76f7ed0-3911-11ee-9d8e-d3931c556a91.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2612793/amp/The-women-know-theyre-going-raped-Female-immigrants-sneaking-US-taking-birth-control-avoid-unwanted-pregnancies.html
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/suspect-in-silver-spring-trail-rape-case-is-in-us-illegally-ice.amp
https://www.lawofficer.com/1-charged-in-gang-rape-of-minnesota-girl-11-illegal-immigrants-processed-at-scene/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24958078/illegal-immigrant-raped-woman-park/amp/


These people are evil. There is nothing else to say.
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Mar 4 2024 09:49am
A 9-0 Supreme court smackdown to save democracy from idiocy

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-719_19m2.pdf



This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 4 2024 09:51am
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Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 4 2024 04:49pm)
A 9-0 Supreme court smackdown to save democracy from idiocy

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-719_19m2.pdf


If you aren't realizing it was not possible to let 1 state decide for all others about presidential elections... Oh well ;)

Hopefully US are not becoming an irreversible idiocracy built over corporatism fundamentalism, taking over everything.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 4 2024 07:49am)
A 9-0 Supreme court smackdown to save democracy from idiocy

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-719_19m2.pdf


Instead of commenting on the decision, the front page of The Atlantic this morning:

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