More like all the questions about your Wumao habits and training.

Taiwan was first incorporated under the Qing, territory they subsequently lost two centuries later. If we can't agree on what's established historical fact then this conversation isn't really going to go anywhere.

The defacto American position is that Taiwan is independent, hence why America deals directly and independently with the Taiwanese government in all relevant matters, sells the Taiwanese weapons, and engages directly with them on matters of trade.

Wouldn't the easiest method to settle this be to just ask the people that currently inhabit the island? If they want to be part of China, no one should force them to remain independent. If they don't want to be part of China, no one should force them to be.

All the historic arguments, no matter how convincing they might appear, are pretty useless when you end up with a situation in which 25 million people would consider themselves occupied by a foreign, hostile nation.

I don't think most Americans care about Taiwan. There is no brainwashing because people simply don't care, doesn't matter how much money Taiwan pours into lobbying.

Anyway, I think Taiwan should be its own country, because that is the will of the people. For China to declare unilaterally that Taiwan is a part of it and must submit, it strikes me as a dude who forces a woman to marry him and when she says no, he starts a speech about how she belongs to him because there has been some sort of relationship between them from some time ago.

Didn't China let a part of Mongolia become an independent country? Why can't they do the same with Taiwan? Just because Taiwan is culturally and linguistically linked to China, it doesn't mean it's necessarily a part of China. Singapore is Chinese culturally and linguistically but nobody would say it belongs to China.



Much sense. Much respect.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Feb 6 2024 08:17pm

Your response?
When asked to confirm the highly provocative deployment to Kinmen, the Pentagon said it could not comment. “We don’t have a comment on specific operations, engagements, or training” with Taiwan, Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Marty Meiners told Antiwar.com in an email.

“But I would highlight that our support for, and defense relationship with, Taiwan remains aligned against the current threat posed by the People’s Republic of China. Our commitment to Taiwan is rock-solid,” Meiners said.

https://news.antiwar.com/2024/02/07/report-us-military-advisors-deployed-to-taiwan-controlled-islands-on-chinas-coast/

Someone correct me if I'm wrong - is it not true that Taiwan rejects independence in favour of continuing to call themselves the legitimate government of all of China?

This post was edited by El1te on Feb 8 2024 12:44pm

Nah, they dropped that long ago. Now they reject declaring outright independence because they don't want to restart the civil war. Essentially, they are content with de facto independence, so no need to rock the boat.

The United States is expected to deploy almost half of its aircraft carriers in the Western Pacific this year, as military tensions continue to rise over North Korea’s nuclear ambitions and China’s territorial claims.

Three US aircraft carriers from the 11-strong fleet are already in the region, with two more on the way – an unprecedented number intended as a strong signal of deterrence, reported the South China Morning Post (SCMP).

The USS Abraham Lincoln was spotted earlier this month leaving its home port in San Diego, California, and heading towards the Western Pacific, according to the US Naval Institute’s Fleet and Marine Tracker.

The US Navy has also confirmed the USS George Washington will return this year to Japan, where it will replace the USS Ronald Reagan as the centrepiece of the US 7th Fleet’s carrier strike group.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/16/us-deploys-half-aircraft-carriers-china-doorstep-pacific/

Cyprus is part of Greece

When the GW arrives, the RR will return to the states. When the AL arrives on station, it will likely replace whichever carrier is forward deployed. This is normal ship rotation. I've been through it twice. We always keep a carrier strike group deployed from the east coast into typically the Mediterranean Sea (currently in the Red Sea), and a carrier strike group deployed from the west coast will deploy into the Pacific. Separatey from the WestPac deployed carrier, the US keeps a carrier homeported in Japan, on a rotational basis.