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Nov 21 2023 03:03pm
Quote (paweljonk @ Nov 21 2023 03:57pm)
how are u guys playing this mu?
fast stomps? telekinese into stomp? banana southwalk with blaze?sitting in trains?
not many sorc on eu to svs again


Most play is fast paced and aggressive. Stomps are frequent, walks for escape with blaze. Telek stomps happen, but aren’t used as much since fhr changes. Low life you will see some firewall snipes :)
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Nov 22 2023 10:49am
ah the good old dumb svs rules where you can use TG but you cannot use Lo + wisp

amazing
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Quote (Stefbef @ Nov 22 2023 11:49am)
ah the good old dumb svs rules where you can use TG but you cannot use Lo + wisp

amazing


Welcome to come join and discuss changes. There is a discussion thread for rule changes for the ladder as well. If something is imbalanced, can always be discussed and tested :)
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Nov 22 2023 10:54pm
Really well written man! we should have this guide posted on the svs ladder home page!
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Nov 23 2023 08:31pm
Quote (Stefbef @ 22 Nov 2023 10:49)
ah the good old dumb svs rules where you can use TG but you cannot use Lo + wisp

amazing


that is weird, i wouldnt use 80/20 svs even if i could but i never noticed that it was banned, it prob shouldnt be lol

regardless, sticky this?
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Nov 24 2023 01:02am
This is getting me hyped for SVS!! Awesome guide. Thank you Jeff for your hard work. Are all these builds 60FHR from staff, or are you running 86 FHR breakpoint? I am stoked to duel more.


Quote (Stefbef @ 22 Nov 2023 11:49)
ah the good old dumb svs rules where you can use TG but you cannot use Lo + wisp

amazing


Hi Stefbef, here is the difference in case you don't already know:

Quote (ColinTaylorGriffin @ 24 Nov 2023 01:24)
This is my understanding, but I may be wrong:

x= dmg
r=resistance*1/100
y= %absorb*1/100
z= integer absorb

1/6=pvp dmg reduction
dmg output = x*1/6*(1-r)*(1-2*y)-2z


dmg numbers from 200FCR lightning obsession build with 6 leftover points put into thunder storm with 3lightning/3lightningmastery/3thunderstorm on the obsession

Lo+Lo: +10maxres
Lightning: 7 to 46122*1/6*(1-0.85)*(1-0)-0 = 1153 topend dmg
Thunderstorm: 2466 to 3213*1/6*(1-0.85)*(1-0)-0 = 80.325 topend dmg

Tgods: +10maxres, 20 integer absorb
Lightning: 7 to 46122*1/6*(1-0.85)*(1-0)-40 = 1 to 1113.05 topend dmg
Thunderstorm: 2466 to 3213*1/6*(1-0.85)*(1-0)-40 = 40.325 topend dmg

Lo+wisp: +5maxres, 20%absorb
Lightning: 7 to 46122*1/6*(1-0.80)*(1-0.40)-0 = 1 to 922 topend dmg
Thunderstorm: 2466 to 3213*1/6*(1-0.80)*(1-0.40)-0 = 64.26 top end dmg

Lo+wisp is equal to +13maxres.
46122*1/6*(1-0.88)*(1-0)-0 = 922
3213*1/6*(1-0.88)*(1-0)-0 = 64.26


This post was edited by ColinTaylorGriffin on Nov 24 2023 01:03am
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Nov 24 2023 09:18am
Quote (ColinTaylorGriffin @ Nov 24 2023 02:02am)
This is getting me hyped for SVS!! Awesome guide. Thank you Jeff for your hard work. Are all these builds 60FHR from staff, or are you running 86 FHR breakpoint? I am stoked to duel more.


Yeah, I’m hoping this well help more people try out svs or rejoin from LOD. Been planning on making this for a while.

I did the most fhr testing with you and didn’t notice a large enough difference (on fire105 or 200) to make me want to bump up to 86fhr. So all of these setups are at 60fhr.
Cold sorc, with lower life, did greatly benefit however in some matchups.
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Nov 27 2023 07:57am
well writen with alle the info needed!

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Dec 2 2023 10:27am
Quote (gtuk @ Nov 27 2023 08:57am)
well writen with alle the info needed!

gj


Thanks!
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Dec 9 2023 10:54am
Well done mate :)
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