Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 6 2023 11:09am)
israelis did yield, when they entirely left gaza 15 years ago, and let Hamas run the territory. and israel would gladly let gaza become a country and remove the blockade, if hamas stopped attacking israel.
instead hamas has stated in its founding documents they will never stop until every last jews is dead.
I agree that Hamas as a group is very unreasonable. However, we should try and understand why they want all Jews dead. I am pretty sure they have a good reason for wanting so. There are people in the West who want Jews gone, too. There must be a reason for all this hate for Jews.
you think people who do bad things dont have a moral high ground over literal genocidal terrorists? what a small minded thing to post.
do they have an unshaking moral high ground on all things? of course not. but compared to terrorists? lol wtf r u on?
Except not all Gazans are terrorists. Yet the person I was responding to pretty said that Israel should just punish all of them, civilians and terrorists alike. This is what I was reacting to.
Quote (El1te @ Dec 6 2023 11:27am)
Endless? When they're all gone it will end. They don't have a choice, they're being forcibly relocated.
I am pretty sure when you punish civilians who have done nothing wrong by forcibly relocating them, it constitutes a war crime.
Also, I can also say that the conflicts will end if all Israelis are gone. So why don't we relocate them
Quote (El1te @ Dec 6 2023 11:29am)
You're the one who brought it up. You say now it's not constructive to talk about, yet you're the one who accused Israelis of being settlers/invaders.
There is a difference between, "I think Israelis are invaders" and "it is understandable that Israelis appear like invaders to Palestinians".
I said it's not constructive to talk about who is the rightful owner of that land, because so many peoples have lived on it throughout history. But from the vantage point of people who have been currently living there, the Jews that moved in were indeed invaders, or at least, very invader-like. This doesn't mean I think Palestinians are the rightful owner of that land. It just means their reaction to Jews is very understandable. I don't understand why you fail to get this. This isn't complicated.This post was edited by JessiWan on Dec 6 2023 07:46pm