Quote (C4NTWO @ Sep 21 2023 03:44pm)
i think its pretty short sighted to say that they got our $$ from the initial sale and they dont care about player retention. its a bit too early to tell, but if a significant number of people do not return for every season start, yes, they will start freaking out.
i would assume the $ made from the initial sale is important, but so is the re-occuring influx of $ from battlepasses on reset/expansions and the store. by season 3-4, if the number of players at a season start really starts to taper off, you may see them reacting differently.
however, though everyone is shitting on this game, i expect alot of people to come back for s2 either way. i havent played in well over a month now, and i will come back for s2 just for the reset. in my mind they arent actually fixing things that matter and probably will stop again quite quickly.
it will be free so why not, but i sure as hell aint buying no battlepass.
i would agree, they are still high on the success of the initial sale. the high will wear off when from one season to the next, players just simply arent coming back.
given the blurb about d5 not taking so long, and announcing season 2 really early and the hype train theyve just released for s2, i cant help but think that they are atleast starting to freak out.
Think my OP is correct, don't agree with the other guy.
Just like in D3, they had a credibility crisis which was huge. It was their first, actively bad game they produced i think. They didn't care as much as they do now because WoW was massive back then. There is no huge cash cow right now like WoW to cushion any real failure. This was something they were probably planning on making yearly expacs to just rake it in, and while retards and blizzard do
associate sales with something being a good product, that isn't true in all cases. People buy shit en masse and sometimes its just terrible - you have to buy it to try it - that doesn't make it a good product - just good marketing. If they don't deliver in the next expansion, even the delusional people who still associate blizzard with old blizzard might have that delusion breakdown. And that is probably their most valuable asset right now - people's willingness to give this company a pass and still buy their shit based on who they were, not who they are now. If people realize its not the same company, and look at what they do now, and not buy it based on "i was hoping some guy in the back knew what he was doing"(legit paraphrase from someone who posts here) etc blizzard will be in trouble.
There is no starcraft or warcraft. There is the ability to break into the asian market which is difficult(not sure if they resolved the netease bullshit involving licensing yet). There is D4, diablo immortal, and WoW, and survival game in progress.
And there is the sobering #s of players dropping D4. The "if i just play this more it will be like d2" has been done by the people who played d3 and dropped it but bought this. They're not staying. The D3 lovers whose game eventually became mediocre after half a decade of content don't know why they're playing it either, since its just 'bare bones' and has 'bad itemization'
If you need any more proof they know they got problems, there is a reason they released that patch that literally nerfed everything. Its because they didn't want everyone who hadn't hit 100 in pre season to realize in the next season that there wasn't anything left to do - so they slowed everything down in the hopes of stemming the bleeding and allow them time to get content out.This post was edited by FORt-HOBO on Sep 23 2023 04:57pm