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#11
Aug 24 2023 06:46am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Aug 24 2023 12:07pm)
"tracking the level of completion with one sample?"

First off, it is not just one(1) sample that I want to explore, however, I want to find an "estimate" of the level range that can be obtained ... hence my last post with "-/+" indicators. Also, how many Alchemists are online during that run, or how much +Jubilance you have on, or items with +X% Experience gain... or even those in an Event including +X experience cap modifier (only found with an Event, does not appear with items etc). Hey... you may click on an "Emblem" during your run(s) with some modifier to all of the above (excluding Experience Cap from an Event).

Yes, it massively differs based on what you stated and what I have concluded, however, if I complete a catacomb that has +X% Maximum Room Size from an Event, and I clear it easily... I will state the level completed and add in a + sign, this indicates the lowest level you will complete the dimension of XXw X XXh ... you can see it posted already:

16wX10h level 22 (level 26+)

During this catacomb, I had very little Teleport traps and had +X% Maximum Room size making it completely easy to complete... thus, the minimum level to complete a level 22 catacomb is level 26.

This thread is about completing a catacomb for your (solo) or group to reach Master Quest level... as for those trying to complete Mirror Maze, the dimension could easily be recorded if they start the catacomb from level 70.

Hey... once I have the definition of a Map maze dimension in comparison to a standard Catacomb dimension and completion of it, then maybe we can switch the importance of Map drops compared to character level.


What does the number of alchemists online change?

On Softcore you can just guarantee completion by playing td detect and death farming, maybe they should add in a toggle to stop gain xp if you want, not to punish hc, get you to keep prof and make potions more useful
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#12
Aug 24 2023 06:59am
Quote (woofer14 @ 25 Aug 2023 00:46)
What does the number of alchemists online change?

On Softcore you can just guarantee completion by playing td detect and death farming, maybe they should add in a toggle to stop gain xp if you want, not to punish hc, get you to keep prof and make potions more useful


Each Alchemist that is "online" increases the "experience points gained" of every player playing at that time of that core.

An Alchemist increases the "experience gained" by "5%" for the core they are with ... Softcore / Hardcore.

And yes... it is accumulative, thus two(2) Alchemists online in Softcore will equate to an additional 10% Experience Gain FOR THAT CORE - Softcore in this case.

NOTE: I have forgotten the precise amount of "Experience Gain" an alchemist gives while being online and playing... it should be around 2%+ from memory. ... Oh... if a player on that core at the same time is using +X Jub gear and attacking will gain more experience per HIt based on the increase of +X% Experience Gain from either Alchemist(s) online at the same time &/or in conjunction with the current Event modifiers or Map modifiers etc.
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#13
Aug 25 2023 11:53pm
Additional Information previously quoted has been included into the the Table (Code) format below as well as an explanation or more:

KEY:
w = Width
h = Height
+ = complete at higher level
- = complete at lower level
+/- = completed either lower or higher level
?? = incomplete information

Code
Dimension Catacomb Completed by:

05wX05h level 01 (level 02)
05wX05h level 02 (level 03)
06wX05h level 03 (level 04)
06wX06h level 04 (level 05)
07wX06h level 05 (level 07)
07wX06h level 06 (level 08)
08wX06h level 07 (level 09)
08wX07h level 08 (level ??)
09wX07h level 09 (level 11-13)
09wX07h level 10 (level 13)
10wX07h level 11 (level 15)
??wX?? level 12
11wX08h level 13 (level 16)
11wX08h level 14 (level 18)
12wX09h level 15
12wX09h level 16 (level 20)
??wX?? level 17
13wX09h level 18 (level 23-/+)
??wX?? level 19
14wX10h level 20 (level 26)
15wX10h level 21 (level 31)
16wX10h level 22 (level 26+)
15wX11h level 23 (29+)
??wX?? level 24
16wX11h level 25 (level 34)
17wX14h level 26 (level 32)??
??wX?? level 27
??wX?? level 28
19wX12h level 29 (39+/-)
??wX?? level 30
19wX?? level 31 (Td'd ?)
20wX13h level 32 (level 43)
20wX13h level 33 (Td'd ?)
21wX14h level 34 (level 46)
??wX?? level 35
??wX?? level 36
??wX?? level 37
??wX?? level 38
24wX15h level 39 (level 55+/-)
24wX15h level 40 (level 59+)
??wX?? level 41
??wX?? level 42
25wX16h level 43 (level 61)
??wX?? level 44
??wX?? level 45
26wX17h level 46 (level 67)
??wX??h level 47
27wX17h level 48 (level 72+)
??wX?? level 49
29wX18h level 50??
30wX18h level 51??
??wX?? level 52
31wX19h level 53??
??wX?? level 54
32w20h level 55??
32wX21h level 56 (MQ lvl 75+)
32wX21 level 57??
??wX?? level 58
??wX?? level 59
??wX?? level 60
??wX?? level 61
??wX?? level 62
??wX?? level 63
??wX?? level 64
??wX?? level 65
??wX?? level 66
39wX24h level 67??



Quote (izParagonzi @ 24 Aug 2023 00:11)
just an update since I am intoxicated and may fall off to sleep.

Previously I posted I was testing out a Level 39 character level start in a catacomb run, well the dimensions are 24w X 16h ... I am still exploring it and at level 44 and basically only 18-20% explored:

https://prnt.sc/GyLpcSON7xkg

So... wish me luck to complete it without a TD etc... thanks in advance.


Dimensions added 24w X 15h (not 16) Started @ 39 and completed by 55.
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#14
Aug 28 2023 02:56am
Additional Information previously quoted has been included into the the Table (Code) format below as well as an explanation or more:

KEY:
w = Width
h = Height
+ = complete at higher level
- = complete at lower level
+/- = completed either lower or higher level
?? = incomplete information

Code
Dimension Catacomb Completed by:

05wX05h level 01 (level 02)
05wX05h level 02 (level 03)
06wX05h level 03 (level 04)
06wX06h level 04 (level 05)
07wX06h level 05 (level 07)
07wX06h level 06 (level 08)
08wX06h level 07 (level 09)
08wX07h level 08 (level ??)
09wX07h level 09 (level 11-13)
09wX07h level 10 (level 13)
10wX07h level 11 (level 15)
??wX?? level 12
11wX08h level 13 (level 16)
11wX08h level 14 (level 18)
12wX09h level 15
12wX09h level 16 (level 20)
??wX?? level 17
13wX09h level 18 (level 23-/+)
??wX?? level 19
14wX10h level 20 (level 26)
15wX10h level 21 (level 31)
16wX10h level 22 (level 26+)
15wX11h level 23 (29+)
??wX?? level 24
16wX11h level 25 (level 34)
17wX14h level 26 (level 32)??
??wX?? level 27
??wX?? level 28
19wX12h level 29 (39+/-)
??wX?? level 30
19wX?? level 31 (Td'd ?)
20wX13h level 32 (level 43)
20wX13h level 33 (Td'd ?)
21wX14h level 34 (level 46)
??wX?? level 35
??wX?? level 36
??wX?? level 37
??wX?? level 38
24wX15h level 39 (level 55+/-)
24wX15h level 40 (level 59+)
??wX?? level 41
??wX?? level 42
25wX16h level 43 (level 61)
??wX?? level 44
??wX?? level 45
26wX17h level 46 (level 67)
??wX??h level 47
27wX17h level 48 (level 72+)
??wX?? level 49
29wX18h level 50??
30wX18h level 51??
??wX?? level 52
31wX19h level 53??
??wX?? level 54
32w20h level 55??
32wX21h level 56 (MQ lvl 75+)
32wX21 level 57??
??wX?? level 58
??wX?? level 59
??wX?? level 60
??wX?? level 61
??wX?? level 62
??wX?? level 63
??wX?? level 64
??wX?? level 65
??wX?? level 66
39wX24h level 67??


Anyway... started a level 55 catacomb and by the time I exited to ignore Sneaky @ level 62 and re-created the catacomb, I found the dimension(s) to be roughly 32w X 20h. This seems to fit with the dimension I posted previously in the Table.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Aug 28 2023 02:57am
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Aug 30 2023 03:53am
Additional Information previously quoted has been included into the the Table (Code) format below as well as an explanation or more:

KEY:
w = Width
h = Height
+ = complete at higher level
- = complete at lower level
+/- = completed either lower or higher level
?? = incomplete information

Code
Dimension Catacomb Completed by:

05wX05h level 01 (level 02)
05wX05h level 02 (level 03)
06wX05h level 03 (level 04)
06wX06h level 04 (level 05)
07wX06h level 05 (level 07)
07wX06h level 06 (level 08)
08wX06h level 07 (level 09)
08wX07h level 08 (level ??)
09wX07h level 09 (level 11-13)
09wX07h level 10 (level 13)
10wX07h level 11 (level 15)
??wX?? level 12
11wX08h level 13 (level 16)
11wX08h level 14 (level 18)
12wX09h level 15
12wX09h level 16 (level 20)
??wX?? level 17
13wX09h level 18 (level 23-/+)
??wX?? level 19
14wX10h level 20 (level 26)
15wX10h level 21 (level 31)
16wX10h level 22 (level 26+)
15wX11h level 23 (29+)
??wX?? level 24
16wX11h level 25 (level 34)
17wX14h level 26 (level 32)??
??wX?? level 27
??wX?? level 28
19wX12h level 29 (39+/-)
??wX?? level 30
19wX?? level 31 (Td'd ?)
20wX13h level 32 (level 43)
20wX13h level 33 (Td'd ?)
21wX14h level 34 (level 46)
??wX?? level 35
??wX?? level 36
??wX?? level 37
??wX?? level 38
24wX15h level 39 (level 55+/-)
24wX15h level 40 (level 59+)
??wX?? level 41
??wX?? level 42
25wX16h level 43 (level 61)
??wX?? level 44
??wX?? level 45
26wX17h level 46 (level 67)
??wX??h level 47
27wX17h level 48 (level 72+)
??wX?? level 49
29wX18h level 50??
30wX18h level 51??
??wX?? level 52
31wX19h level 53??
??wX?? level 54
32w20h level 55??
32wX21h level 56 (MQ lvl 75+)
32wX21 level 57??
??wX?? level 58
??wX?? level 59
??wX?? level 60
??wX?? level 61
??wX?? level 62
??wX?? level 63
??wX?? level 64
??wX?? level 65
??wX?? level 66
39wX24h level 67??


Anyway... started a level 55 catacomb and by the time I exited to ignore Sneaky @ level 62 and re-created the catacomb, I found the dimension(s) to be roughly 32w X 20h. This seems to fit with the dimension I posted previously in the Table.

Started catacomb @ level 64, still trying to complete it and have not found Treasure Pest objective ... the Dimensions maybe 36w X 23h .... I am currently level 72 and roughly 50% ish complete ... thus I will achieve MQ level 75 without completing it.

SO: Why the Fudge I haven't had the chance to complete a Solo Objective Like Treasure Pest from say 15 to 72?

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Aug 30 2023 03:55am
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#16
Sep 1 2023 01:19am
Quote (izParagonzi @ 30 Aug 2023 21:53)
Additional Information previously quoted has been included into the the Table (Code) format below as well as an explanation or more:

KEY:
w = Width
h = Height
+ = complete at higher level
- = complete at lower level
+/- = completed either lower or higher level
?? = incomplete information

Code
Dimension Catacomb Completed by:

05wX05h level 01 (level 02)
05wX05h level 02 (level 03)
06wX05h level 03 (level 04)
06wX06h level 04 (level 05)
07wX06h level 05 (level 07)
07wX06h level 06 (level 08)
08wX06h level 07 (level 09)
08wX07h level 08 (level ??)
09wX07h level 09 (level 11-13)
09wX07h level 10 (level 13)
10wX07h level 11 (level 15)
??wX?? level 12
11wX08h level 13 (level 16)
11wX08h level 14 (level 18)
12wX09h level 15
12wX09h level 16 (level 20)
??wX?? level 17
13wX09h level 18 (level 23-/+)
??wX?? level 19
14wX10h level 20 (level 26)
15wX10h level 21 (level 31)
16wX10h level 22 (level 26+)
15wX11h level 23 (29+)
??wX?? level 24
16wX11h level 25 (level 34)
17wX14h level 26 (level 32)??
??wX?? level 27
??wX?? level 28
19wX12h level 29 (39+/-)
??wX?? level 30
19wX?? level 31 (Td'd ?)
20wX13h level 32 (level 43)
20wX13h level 33 (Td'd ?)
21wX14h level 34 (level 46)
??wX?? level 35
??wX?? level 36
??wX?? level 37
??wX?? level 38
24wX15h level 39 (level 55+/-)
24wX15h level 40 (level 59+)
??wX?? level 41
??wX?? level 42
25wX16h level 43 (level 61)
??wX?? level 44
??wX?? level 45
26wX17h level 46 (level 67)
??wX??h level 47
27wX17h level 48 (level 72+)
??wX?? level 49
29wX18h level 50??
30wX18h level 51??
??wX?? level 52
31wX19h level 53??
??wX?? level 54
32w20h level 55??
32wX21h level 56 (MQ lvl 75+)
32wX21 level 57??
??wX?? level 58
??wX?? level 59
??wX?? level 60
??wX?? level 61
??wX?? level 62
??wX?? level 63
??wX?? level 64
??wX?? level 65
??wX?? level 66
39wX24h level 67??


Anyway... started a level 55 catacomb and by the time I exited to ignore Sneaky @ level 62 and re-created the catacomb, I found the dimension(s) to be roughly 32w X 20h. This seems to fit with the dimension I posted previously in the Table.

Started catacomb @ level 64, still trying to complete it and have not found Treasure Pest objective ... the Dimensions maybe 36w X 23h .... I am currently level 72 and roughly 50% ish complete ... thus I will achieve MQ level 75 without completing it.

SO: Why the Fudge I haven't had the chance to complete a Solo Objective Like Treasure Pest from say 15 to 72?


Confirmation: Level 55 Starting Catacomb Dimension is 32w X 20h ... I am level 73 now, and have explored roughly 70% of the catacomb from level 55 to Master Quest level 73 (Samurai) ... so in retrospect, can be completed by a Headhunter.
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#17
Sep 6 2023 07:00pm
And I get a Flash trap: https://prnt.sc/5vnGDulIA8DU

Think I started the catacomb @ level 25 or 26 and currently level 38 and the dimensions are 17w X 12h ... so I have to repeat run(s) again to confirm more for the table.
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#18
Sep 6 2023 07:41pm
Could not EDIT... so completed the catacomb @ level 40.8x ... so will get to level 41 and hopefully find the dimensions for that level creating the catacomb.
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#19
Sep 13 2023 01:21am
Well... completed a level 44.66 Catacomb and completed it by level 66.85. Dimensions 25w X 16h ... basically a 22 level gain.
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#20
Sep 15 2023 01:41am
Hmm... 16w X 11h ... currently at level 33 ... did not take note of when I started the catacomb, however, it seems to be around level 25 start and still completing by level 33+

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