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Apr 5 2023 01:58am
Hey guys its just a strange feeling but I think the drop/quality of items changes (gets worse) if you change gear during a fight.
For example - I always carry a ML charm in the Acc. Charm slot and when I encounter the Evil Presence I put this charm
But I noticed that when I put it during fight it resets my ability % progress and the drop always gets worse
If I don't change gear during the EP fight I always get better gear (higher level, more magic stats)
Anyone else noticed this? I don't know if it has been discussed before.

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Apr 5 2023 05:28am
It has been discussed but I'm not sure anyone has the answer. Some feel the same way as you.
I'd be curious if anyone HAS had consistent luck swapping to ML right before the kill?
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Apr 5 2023 09:10am
I felt this way for awhile about swapping (including during wells, where I felt it was important to have the same gear on even when I drop the item in).
Then my 3 best drops came during swaps, 1 included a death in the middle of the well.

Seems like so many things in LS magic finding world: no one really knows.
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Apr 5 2023 11:47am
I always start the fight with ML gear, swap to main gear when the well mob spawns, and switch to ML for the final hit..

Not sure if its possible to tell what works and what doesn't.. drops in this game are too miniscule for an accurate measurement
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Apr 5 2023 03:38pm
Only one thing I believe that you should do in your scenario. Keep the charm on (ML) during all waves and kill 100 monsters and take a note of the drops, then repeat this for the next 100 kills without the charm on and take notes on drops, including 0 drops and EP encounters. Do this for 1000 kill each and compare. Also take note of any abilities you use on the killing blow.

This is what Bigheaded would do when testing things out... seems like something you can test out yourself. Also... ML definitely is better for muting.

I wouldn't switch during encounters, the monster spawn I assume (not sure of), has already had the drop quality and ML included in spawning, and death % isn't a factor.
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Apr 5 2023 03:46pm
Quote (Dotaronomy @ Apr 5 2023 12:10pm)
I felt this way for awhile about swapping (including during wells, where I felt it was important to have the same gear on even when I drop the item in).
Then my 3 best drops came during swaps, 1 included a death in the middle of the well.

Seems like so many things in LS magic finding world: no one really knows.


The main well drop is determined when you throw the item in. We know this for sure.
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Apr 5 2023 04:00pm
Quote (Juston @ Apr 5 2023 05:46pm)
The main well drop is determined when you throw the item in. We know this for sure.


So does this mean the applying ML prior to the final hit has no effect?
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Apr 5 2023 04:07pm
Quote (BwJ @ 6 Apr 2023 10:00)
So does this mean the applying ML prior to the final hit has no effect?


With or without ML, the white item dropped into the well is pre-determined, the side drops are random, and is affected by ML. as stated:

Quote (Bigheaded @ 2 Apr 2023 04:22)
ML will help with whites in the sense that using ML gear usually means you're not "full power"

for example instead of using
150ee wep
150ee armor
40 strength or dex charm

you may be using
150ee wep
150ee armor
10 ml charm

it's been noted many times the slower you kill mobs the more it aids your drops, so because you're 40 stats less, you'll be killing slower.


as Nr1 stated, ML itself if anything will lower chances of whites dropping. as one of the things that ML does is increase the number of side mods of an item, it's unknown whether or not this would change white to magical, or whether whites would be unaffected.




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Quote (BwJ @ Apr 5 2023 07:00pm)
So does this mean the applying ML prior to the final hit has no effect?


It might effect the side drops
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Apr 5 2023 04:10pm
Quote (BwJ @ 5 Apr 2023 17:00)
So does this mean the applying ML prior to the final hit has no effect?


Final hit ml on a well affects the side drops not the main drop.
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