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Oct 1 2025 11:31am
Zelensky has awarded Andriy Biletsky, commander of the 3rd Army Corps, the rank of brigadier general.

Quite the meteoric, whiplash-inducing career path for an ultranationalist: from the self-styled “White Führer,” who once thundered about the white race and a “Jewish conspiracy,” to a decorated member of Ukranian military elite — under a president of Jewish heritage.

https://i.imgur.com/m3SUtfN.jpeg

The blatant whitewashing and promotion of a
"depoliticized" Biletsky and a "calibrated nationalist" Sternenko in the most respectable international media is not due to ignorance about who they are. There is abundant information-also in English-about their ideological and criminal backgrounds. Nor is it that Western intellectual elites refuse to criticize Ukrainians during wartime: they only recently framed Zelensky as a corrupt dictator for trying to rein in the "anti-corruption" institutions. And it is certainly not because Western publics are deeply invested in the Ukrainian national cause-most have a strikingly poor grasp of what is happening.

No. It is because liberal rule at the has always depended on Biletskys, Sternenkos, "moderate democratic Islamists," and other "freedom fighters" on the peripheries. And as liberal rule begins to unravel at the core, "centrist" elites themselves will grow more open to authoritarian practices and obscurantist ideologies.


a moment, let me gather my thoughts. ok here we go...

Sounds like a great guy! at least he was never in the Azov Battalion or had any affiliation with them. Never once stood in front of the 1st commander of Azov (since he WAS the 1st commander), either, so clearly a model officer. I was reading he was attacked by Russian HAWKS, Russian propaganda, no less! Can you believe they accused him, him! of having neo-Nazi or extremist views? All I could find is a tiny, completely insignificant quote about Ukraine’s mission to ‘lead the white races of the world in a final crusade… against Semite-led Untermenschen.’ Nothing to see here. Truly refreshing to see someone rise through the ranks without ever being sanctioned for such minor, utterly inconsequential opinions. A real blonde-haired, blue-eyed freedom fighter, through and through, what a role model for perfectly apolitical career paths!

i see you goom, deep breaths ok!

This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 1 2025 11:32am
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a moment, let me gather my thoughts. ok here we go...

Sounds like a great guy! at least he was never in the Azov Battalion or had any affiliation with them. Never once stood in front of the 1st commander of Azov (since he WAS the 1st commander), either, so clearly a model officer. I was reading he was attacked by Russian HAWKS, Russian propaganda, no less! Can you believe they accused him, him! of having neo-Nazi or extremist views? All I could find is a tiny, completely insignificant quote about Ukraine’s mission to ‘lead the white races of the world in a final crusade… against Semite-led Untermenschen.’ Nothing to see here. Truly refreshing to see someone rise through the ranks without ever being sanctioned for such minor, utterly inconsequential opinions. A real blonde-haired, blue-eyed freedom fighter, through and through, what a role model for perfectly apolitical career paths!

i see you goom, deep breaths ok!


Mind summoning a former mod from the neighboring thread or chicken xD?
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Mind summoning a former mod from the neighboring thread or chicken xD?


stop being bold.
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Russian oil tanker seized in international waters by France. I’m just tryin to understand which law is being applied here that allows something like this?
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Russian oil tanker seized in international waters by France. I’m just tryin to understand which law is being applied here that allows something like this?


If its in international waters there are no laws. unfortunately. i know that sounds mad but there you have it. its the same with all the terror drone strikes by Israel on the flotilla, the sea is the wild west im afraid.

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If its in international waters there are no laws. unfortunately. i know that sounds mad but there you have it. its the same with all the terror drone strikes by Israel on the flotilla, the sea is the wild west im afraid.




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Oct 2 2025 02:41am
Zelensky has awarded Andriy Biletsky, commander of the 3rd Army Corps, the rank of brigadier general.

Quite the meteoric, whiplash-inducing career path for an ultranationalist: from the self-styled “White Führer,” who once thundered about the white race and a “Jewish conspiracy,” to a decorated member of Ukranian military elite — under a president of Jewish heritage.

https://i.imgur.com/m3SUtfN.jpeg

The blatant whitewashing and promotion of a
"depoliticized" Biletsky and a "calibrated nationalist" Sternenko in the most respectable international media is not due to ignorance about who they are. There is abundant information-also in English-about their ideological and criminal backgrounds. Nor is it that Western intellectual elites refuse to criticize Ukrainians during wartime: they only recently framed Zelensky as a corrupt dictator for trying to rein in the "anti-corruption" institutions. And it is certainly not because Western publics are deeply invested in the Ukrainian national cause-most have a strikingly poor grasp of what is happening.

No. It is because liberal rule at the has always depended on Biletskys, Sternenkos, "moderate democratic Islamists," and other "freedom fighters" on the peripheries. And as liberal rule begins to unravel at the core, "centrist" elites themselves will grow more open to authoritarian practices and obscurantist ideologies.




Enough talking about Ukraine heroes controversial past, let’s talk about Ukraine’s heroes controversial future.

This post was edited by Malopox on Oct 2 2025 02:43am
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https://i.imgur.com/FAVGFyQ.jpeg

Enough talking about Ukraine heroes controversial past, let’s talk about Ukraine’s heroes controversial future.


The reality is that history repeats itself, there is only one future - peace. wink.
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a moment, let me gather my thoughts. ok here we go...

Sounds like a great guy! at least he was never in the Azov Battalion or had any affiliation with them. Never once stood in front of the 1st commander of Azov (since he WAS the 1st commander), either, so clearly a model officer. I was reading he was attacked by Russian HAWKS, Russian propaganda, no less! Can you believe they accused him, him! of having neo-Nazi or extremist views? All I could find is a tiny, completely insignificant quote about Ukraine’s mission to ‘lead the white races of the world in a final crusade… against Semite-led Untermenschen.’ Nothing to see here. Truly refreshing to see someone rise through the ranks without ever being sanctioned for such minor, utterly inconsequential opinions. A real blonde-haired, blue-eyed freedom fighter, through and through, what a role model for perfectly apolitical career paths!

i see you goom, deep breaths ok!


This is fake news, this guy didnt say that quote.

Yes Ukrainians often are catious about black people, this is mostly because there are no black people in Ukraine.
So this is something strange to them, they are scared of mass immigration, they are scared that mass immigration will change their country and that they wont be the same Ukraine any longer.
They read that there are some problems with immigrants in the western Europe.
Does being a catious about immigration mean you are racist?
Its debatable, imo it doesnt.
But letting unlimited immigration into your country is just plain stupid. You should only accept as many immigrants as you can integrate into your socjety.
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This is fake news, this guy didnt say that quote.

Yes Ukrainians often are catious about black people, this is mostly because there are no black people in Ukraine.
So this is something strange to them, they are scared of mass immigration, they are scared that mass immigration will change their country and that they wont be the same Ukraine any longer.
They read that there are some problems with immigrants in the western Europe.
Does being a catious about immigration mean you are racist?
Its debatable, imo it doesnt.
But letting unlimited immigration into your country is just plain stupid. You should only accept as many immigrants as you can integrate into your socjety.


He did. The internet remembers everything.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140826231238/http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11025137/Ukraine-crisis-the-neo-Nazi-brigade-fighting-pro-Russian-separatists.html
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