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Aug 19 2025 08:46pm
Is there a need to spew nonsense and hatred here? After all it is so easy to condemn nazism like every smart and educated person here does. Repeat after me: “being fascinated by racial theory is bad, mkay”.

You have consistently displayed shallow command of facts about Ukraine and Russia, yet you seem to have hubris and arrogance to share your opinions about subject matter. Why?


Look i dont hate orcs but honestly if their hearts just collectively stopped beating, the world would be a slightly less shitty place for decent folk innit?

Yes yes, the true horror of this war is it has lead to people calling orcs orcs for their orc like behaviour. Not the mass destruction, devastation, rape and murder of men women and children by the armies of an old tyrant flailing for the glory days of the Soviet union.

What "fact" of the ukraine/russia war have i missed?

This post was edited by duffman316 on Aug 19 2025 08:47pm
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Aug 19 2025 08:58pm
Look i dont hate orcs but honestly if their hearts just collectively stopped beating, the world would be a slightly less shitty place for decent folk innit?

Yes yes, the true horror of this war is it has lead to people calling orcs orcs for their orc like behaviour. Not the mass destruction, devastation, rape and murder of men women and children by the armies of an old tyrant flailing for the glory days of the Soviet union.

What "fact" of the ukraine/russia war have i missed?


A reminder, you are in Russia/Ukraine thread, doubling down on Goebbels-like rhetoric and wishing death to hundreds of millions is bewildering, to say the least.

The tragedy of this conflict is that people like you would not be able to tell a Ukrainian from a Russian even if your life depended on it, yet here you are, sharing your dramatic and misinformed opinions. Relying on fake news and propaganda has clearly affected your ability to think critically about this and does more harm to you than you are able to perceive.

I mean I wouldn’t be able to tell a Tutsi from a Hutu African or a Zhuang from a Hui Chinese myself however I have the humility not to call Hutus “orcs and untermenschen” for perpetrating a proven genocide against Tutsi.

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Aug 19 2025 09:07pm
A reminder, you are in Russia/Ukraine thread, doubling down on Goebbels-like rhetoric and wishing death to hundreds of millions is bewildering, to say the least.

The tragedy of this conflict is that people like you would not be able to tell a Ukrainian from a Russian even if your life depended on it, yet here you are, sharing your dramatic and misinformed opinions. Relying on fake news and propaganda has clearly affected your ability to think critically about this and does more harm to you than you are able to perceive.

I mean I wouldn’t be able to tell a Tutsi from a Hutu African or a Zhuang from a Hui Chinese myself however I have the humility not to call Hutus “orcs and untermenschen” for perpetrating a proven genocide against Tutsi.


This has all the energy of hamas and idf sympathizers crying about Islamophobia and antisemitism when faced with criticism.

You keep mentioning misinformation and facts. Tell me your facts, Ukraine started the war? Zelensky is as bad as saddam, Osama and gadafi? Putin is a pacifist?

What have I missed?
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Aug 19 2025 11:58pm
Look, you're saying fk nazis and I agree.

But I look at all atrocities being committed so I gotta say fk both nazis and orcs

Why are you defending the orcs so much? I linked you 400 years of their barbaric history


Because you are clearly unaware, let me link you some barbaric history in it's full glory ;)

Note the bolded parts

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Following Adolf Hitler's rise to power, Lebensraum became an ideological principle of Nazism and provided justification for the German territorial expansion into Central and Eastern Europe.[7] The Nazi policy Generalplan Ost (lit. 'Master Plan for the East') was based on its tenets. It stipulated that Germany required a Lebensraum necessary for its survival and that most of the populations of Central and Eastern Europe would have to be removed permanently (either through mass deportation to Siberia, extermination, or enslavement), including Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, Belarus, Czech, and other Slavic nations considered non-Aryan. The Nazi government aimed at repopulating these lands with Germanic colonists in the name of Lebensraum during and following World War II.[8][9][10][11] Entire populations were ravaged by starvation; any agricultural surplus was used to feed Germany.[8] The Jewish population was to be exterminated outright.


--> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost

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The Generalplan Ost (German pronunciation: [ɡenəˈʁaːlˌplaːn ˈɔst]; lit. 'Master Plan for the East'), abbreviated GPO, was Nazi Germany's plan for the settlement and "Germanization" of captured territory in Eastern Europe, involving the genocide, extermination and large-scale ethnic cleansing of Slavs, Eastern European Jews, and other indigenous peoples of Eastern Europe categorized as "Untermenschen" in Nazi ideology.[7][5] The campaign was a precursor to Nazi Germany's planned colonisation of Central and Eastern Europe by Germanic settlers, and it was carried out through systematic massacres, mass starvations, chattel labour, mass rapes, child abductions, and sexual slavery.[8][9]


All of this resulted in:

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The Soviet Union suffered staggering casualties during World War II, with estimates ranging from 25 to 27 million deaths. This includes both military personnel and civilians. Historians say that roughly 8.7 million were military deaths, and approximately 19 million were civilian deaths.



:rofl:


That's all you got? What a joke.

Zoomer Historian lol. Guy makes up history as he goes.

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Aug 20 2025 12:29am
Goomshill in 2000: Nazis are bad
everyone else: yup
Goomshill in 2005: Nazis are bad
everyone else: yup
Goomshill in 2010: Nazis are bad
everyone else: yup
Goomshill in 2015: Nazis are bad
everyone else: yup
Goomshill in 2020: Nazis are bad
everyone else: what about...
Goomshill in 2025: Nazis are bad
everyone else: you've been brainwashed by russian propaganda!
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Aug 20 2025 12:30am
Because you are clearly unaware, let me link you some barbaric history in it's full glory ;)

Note the bolded parts



--> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost



All of this resulted in:






That's all you got? What a joke.

Zoomer Historian lol. Guy makes up history as he goes.


If it's true that two million German women were indeed raped, then it turns out that every other German born after 1945 is Russian. We must urgently send in troops to protect their right to speak Russian and practice Orcodoxy. That is, of course, unless you consider that everyday whoring for tushonka and MREs doesn't count :)

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Aug 20 2025 12:53am
Goomshill in 2000: Nazis are bad
everyone else: yup
Goomshill in 2005: Nazis are bad
everyone else: yup
Goomshill in 2010: Nazis are bad
everyone else: yup
Goomshill in 2015: Nazis are bad
everyone else: yup
Goomshill in 2020: Nazis are bad
everyone else: what about...
Goomshill in 2025: Nazis are bad
everyone else: you've been brainwashed by russian propaganda!


gerAUT in 2005: Bombing 51M people because of a Brigade using questionable symbolic is bad.
everyone else: yup
gerAUT in 2010: Bombing 51M people because of a Brigade using questionable symbolic is bad.
everyone else: yup
gerAUT in 2015: Bombing 51M people because of a Brigade using questionable symbolic is bad.
everyone else: yup
gerAUT in 2020: Bombing 51M people because of a Brigade using questionable symbolic is bad.
Russian Fans: What about...
gerAUT in 2025: Bombing 51M people because of a Brigade using questionable symbolic is bad.
Russian Fans: you've been brainwashed by Western propaganda! It's totally reasonable to bomb them all to the ground and deport thousand of children.

Also you guys have to chose an excuse at some point. Was it nazis, the nato or the fact that they belonged to USSR once.

This post was edited by BaHgerAUT on Aug 20 2025 01:19am
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Aug 20 2025 01:12am
gerAUT in 2005: Bombing 51M people because of a Brigade using questionable symbolic is bad.
everyone else: yup
gerAUT in 2010: Bombing 51M people because of a Brigade using questionable symbolic is bad.
everyone else: yup
gerAUT in 2015: Bombing 51M people because of a Brigade using questionable symbolic is bad.
everyone else: yup
gerAUT in 2020: Bombing 51M people because of a Brigade using questionable symbolic is bad.
Russian Fans: What about...
gerAUT in 2025: Bombing 51M people because of a Brigade using questionable symbolic is bad.
Russian Fans: you've been brainwashed by Western propaganda! It's totally reasonable to bomb them all to the ground and deport thousand of children.


Djunior in December 2021: It's better to negotiate with the Russians let Ukraine stay neutral or Ukraine will get wrecked. NAFO: You're a Putin bootlicker / Kremlin bot
Djunior in 2022: It's better to negotiate with the Russians let Ukraine stay neutral or Ukraine will get wrecked. NAFO: You're a Putin bootlicker / Kremlin bot
Djunior in 2023: It's better to negotiate with the Russians let Ukraine stay neutral or Ukraine will get wrecked. NAFO: You're a Putin bootlicker / Kremlin bot
Djunior in 2024: It's better to negotiate with the Russians let Ukraine stay neutral or Ukraine will get wrecked. NAFO: You're a Putin bootlicker / Kremlin bot
Djunior in 2025: It's better to negotiate with the Russians let Ukraine stay neutral or Ukraine will get wrecked. NAFO: You're a Putin bootlicker / Kremlin bot

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Aug 20 2025 01:17am
Djunior in December 2021: It's better to negotiate with the Russians let Ukraine stay neutral or Ukraine will get wrecked. NAFO: You're a Putin bootlicker / Kremlin bot
Djunior in 2022: It's better to negotiate with the Russians let Ukraine stay neutral or Ukraine will get wrecked. NAFO: You're a Putin bootlicker / Kremlin bot
Djunior in 2023: It's better to negotiate with the Russians let Ukraine stay neutral or Ukraine will get wrecked. NAFO: You're a Putin bootlicker / Kremlin bot
Djunior in 2024: It's better to negotiate with the Russians let Ukraine stay neutral or Ukraine will get wrecked. NAFO: You're a Putin bootlicker / Kremlin bot
Djunior in 2025: It's better to negotiate with the Russians let Ukraine stay neutral or Ukraine will get wrecked. NAFO: You're a Putin bootlicker / Kremlin bot


We’ve been there before, we might get there again, and Russia will ignore it once more. Maybe there will be a learning effect after the tenth time they do it. But most likely you'll just copy/paste their excuses again in 2026.

The playbook is huge: stage an incident against a russian minority in ukraine, find a nazi tattoo, stage an attack breaking the treaty, frame protests as coup, etc. Sadly iam not as creative as them.
Or maybe the number of incidents in other countries they want will suddenly rise.

List of bad behaviors by the West to justify russian actions incoming in 3, 2, 1…

This post was edited by BaHgerAUT on Aug 20 2025 01:26am
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Aug 20 2025 02:35am
Goomshill in 2000: Nazis are bad
everyone else: yup
Goomshill in 2005: Nazis are bad
everyone else: yup
Goomshill in 2010: Nazis are bad
everyone else: yup
Goomshill in 2015: Nazis are bad
everyone else: yup
Goomshill in 2020: Nazis are bad
everyone else: what about...
Goomshill in 2025: Nazis are bad
everyone else: you've been brainwashed by russian propaganda!


You're intentionally missing the point. The question isn't if there are nazis in Ukraine, the question is how powerful they are and if their influence on Ukraine's government is significant enough to justify Russia's actions, or to make Russia the morally superior side in this conflict.

Additionally, it is intellectually dishonest to ignore that swastikas and far-right symbols used by Ukrainians need to be viewed against the backdrop of Ukraine's specific history - a history in which they were subjugated and genocided by the Soviets, so that the nationalist half of their population viewed the invading nazi forces which fought against the Soviets as liberators and sided with them. In the Ukrainian context, these symbols can also signal an ultra-nationalist or anti-Russian attitude and don't necessarily have to mean the usual "gas the jews; let's exterminate all non-Aryans" drivel.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 20 2025 02:37am
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